How do people feel about this one? Will it be short and sweet?
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Being promoted in a few weeks and I'm fully expecting to be on CO pay for the better half of a year after seeing what colleagues have went through to get their increased pay hahah
The proposed deal is better than I expected.
Indeed. Who knows what conflicts will have broken out by then, or where inflation will go.
They may not be able to forecast for that, but even without it, I'm not as confident in their predictions of lower inflation as they are.
But they do know what happened over the last couple of years, and could have mitigated for that. They chose instead, to ignore it.
Based on past deals and increases do you believe the €1125 increase will be on a pro-rata basis?
I'm not sure I understand the question...
You complain that deals are never front loaded and hate when it's drip fed. They front load it. You then complain the end of the deal isn't enough. Jesus f'ing Christ.
No, I'm complaining that term of the deal is too long.
More than half of it only has only 3 1% increases, with the last two of those coming more than 2 years from now. It is a cynical ploy used by the employer, to stretch this out over as long as possible.
Keep up dear. And do try to keep a civil tone when you do it, or I'll just continue to ignore you.
"And then a mere 3%, delivered in 1% drips, over the remaining 17 months of the deal"
That's complaining about the amount and distribution, not the length of the deal.
For this deal you're complaining about it being front loaded. If it was length you were complaining about it wouldn't make a difference what the final percentage was over the final 17 months. It would simply be "the deal is too long".
Be consistent dear. Try be less condescending darling.
What's the reasoning behind splitting the increments into such small amounts? Seems like it adds work on the accountancy side of things.
I know it allows for government savings but they're only once off.
You don't get 1125 in one lump sum on 1 Jan, it is applied over the year as normal with your salary but just starts to come into effect from 1st jan
So, in my post where I mentioned the latter 17 months of the deal, you think it sounded like I was happy with it?
Please. 🙄
Every time I give you a chance, you show you're not worth my time or effort.
Bye.
It reads you're unhappy with it being distributed with only 3% at the end. The deal is front loaded and you're complaining about that.
"Not worth my time or effort" - Youre so offensive.
And swearing at me isn't offensive? Practice what you preach.
No, it was me being unhappy about the length of the term and not the distribution of anything. That was your error in interpretation.
Come back to me when you can be civil. Or don't. I'm indifferent really.
You equate a curse word and saying someone "isn't worth your time". They are equivalent in your world? Good stuff.
Your post reads a redistribution would be acceptable to you. You've clarified, that's fine. I'll take you at your word.
It's always pro rata, it would be impossible not to be as it effectively will be linked to the point on the scale.
Ah..I see.
That old chestnut. A group wants to be paid fairly for what they do then it also means they want to target the vulnerable.
That's paper thin, but I'm sure you're only delighted someone took the bait so you can restate it ad nauseum.
That will all depend on the instructions from your local HR to people point and from them to payroll. Good luck 😀
Apologies , my question should have been far clearer. I joined the CS in May and I wanted to know if I will receive the full €1125 or will it be a portion of it as I'm not even in the door a year? I thought it was coming in one lump, sadly as caviardreams wrote it's not.
Thanks for that. I'm new enough to the CS and I'm not certain of the ins and outs of the pay deals, much appreciated.
Your gross pay will increase by 1125 this year (assuming you earn less than 50k). When the deal is implemented you will receive back pay to January of the 2.25% you should have gotten.
Your pension will also be adjusted.
Hi,
You'll receive the full amount, but as has already been explained, its not a lump sum, it's spread over the year.
It's a 2.25% increase in your basic pay, or €1125 (an increase of approx €21.56 per week in your pay) - whichever is greater.
Both types of increase are before deductions.
By “real salary” I mean the full contracted salary that some workers get from Day 1 when they start in their role.
Unfortunately, I’m on increments so it takes me approx 12 years of passing my performance reviews to get to my full salary or my “real salary”.
Eh, increments are not the sole domain of the PS, they are throughout the private sector as well.
So, you’re now claiming the increase is 17% now, not 25%?
Not a public servant but wife is. This bothers me so much as the government are treating their employees like dirt with their 2.5 year pay deal. Yet the ‘vulnerable’ are always looked after.
Over one million people to receive double social welfare payment this week
https://jrnl.ie/6284051
Yes of course they are, it's called experience and working to the required standard. No one gets their 'real' final salary from day one.
Someone on here said its a good deal but does not address the inflation gap over past few years. well if this deal does not address it , it never will be addressed.
The deal is too long, it is effectively a 3yr deal (last 1% in last month of deal and historically there's always about 6 months between each pay event).so from March 2025 to almost end of 2026 with the three ..1% increases .. you would need average inflation in that period to be very low - unlikely?
There is NO review clause in this agreement in the the event inflation is significant.. this is quite important!
an extra 0.75% at the start and stealing 1% effectively from the next pay deal does not turn the original crap deal into a great deal.
Strange equivocating.
The most vulnerable in society are typically covered by those one off payments. 600k state pensioners, 10s of thousands on disability allowance or invalidity pension. The narrative it's just for the relatively small number of unemployed is incorrect.
The pay deal will be permanent, costs almost 4bn and affects 400k workers by comparison.
There is a review clause, section 5.7.1. Its the clause that was used last time:
https://www.gov.ie/pdf/?file=https://assets.gov.ie/281869/83d6e1fd-0d09-47f9-bfab-80845b01d71f.pdf#page=null
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