Nearly true. There has been one new point raised this year.
Why the GAA invest so much in Dublin and why extending games development funding outside Dublin is unlikely to bridge gap to Dubs.
read it here https://veryintobloggingveryintonewmedia.wordpress.com/2019/07/26/why-the-gaa-invest-so-much-in-dublin-and-why-extending-games-development-funding-is-unlikely-to-bridge-gap-to-dubs/
2019🙄
Raised on this thread.
Yes but article is from 2019 is it not ?
Yes it is. It was brought to this thread in 2024 and is giving a perspective to the issue not raised before.
Most if not all of what is in that article has been raised in this thread over and over again.
I don’t agree. Thanks for reading.
Well i think it has
Can you produce any posts by anyone else that say the reason the GAA invest so heavily in youth coaching in dublin is because it provides a huge return through the membership fees from juvenile members to dublin clubs?
Thread is going at least 4 years , most of the stuff in the article has been covered over and over again , if the above hasn't been mentioned my apologies , sure lets keep the thread going for another 4 years , back and forward and going around in circles .
You’re partially responsible for it going around in circles.
one guy: dublin needs to be split
dunnerc: a split won’t help leitrim
other guy: it will help leitrim
dunnerc: no it won’t
100 pages later
thanks for your apologies, maybe change the record
Nope there is one guy responsible , he's at it 13 years , and for the record it wont help Leitrim lol....
thanks for joining the merry go round .
So what you are saying is hat the GAA has invested heavily in youth coaching in Dublin and it has resulted in a huge increase in juvenile participation rates, being good for the health and wellbeing of our youth and also keeping them off the streets, which is exactly why the government funded it, which is really a great thing to see happening, and that has nothing to do with Dublin winning All-Irelands. Pretty much proving what Dubs on this thread have been saying from the very start.
I disagree. There is no freetaker the like of Rock playing anywhere in the country, let alone Dublin. Look at Cillian O'Connor, a prolific freetaker at lower levels, but when it comes to crunch All-Ireland finals, he missed the big ones. Rock didn't, that was the difference. Without Dean Rock, Dublin get longer odds for an All-Ireland win.
As for "arguably Cluxton", your bias shines through. When it comes to picking the greatest team to play GAA, there are five to six credible nominations in every position except one - goalkeeper. There is no argument - Cluxton is the greatest goalkeeper to play the game.
Yeah pretty much. The great differential currently between Dublin and everyone else is population. The fact they play almost all championship games at home is also a notable advantage. Dublin have significant advantages including their county’s financial health.
But the funding of youngsters in schools and clubs is a side issue that gets way too much focus. And if counties think by reducing the funding of Dublin for youth development in schools or clubs and increasing it in other counties that will bring back dublin to the pack then they are in for a big shock. It won’t. That funding has little affect on the senior dublin team. It may do in future but not for now. The lads who won the six in the row would have been playing Gaelic football whether or not there were professional gaa coaches in schools or clubs. The payoff for that funding will be seen maybe in future.
so in summary I don’t agree with the pro split side and I don’t agree with the Dublin have no advantages side.
Tbf I do provide hard, irrefutable evidence for why splitting Dublin will help Leitrim. Plus more importantly is that it helps all counties, Leitrim just come up as some hardcore Dublin supporters opposed to a split think it is a "gotcha" question that is grounds for not splitting Dublin. Fortunately, this is not the case.
We're all in favour of youth funding, but not Dublin at the expense of everyone else, which is what happened. Plus Dublin have more funding from other sources, a larger population etc. so they enjoy other innate advantages. So the GDO funding absolutely helps the senior inter-county team as it reduces the opportunity cost from more spending, helps develop players who eventually play for Dublin, raises the standard in Dublin alone (again, not a bad thing if available to all, but this was not and is not the case)
Rock did miss one at the end of the drawn 2019 final but I agree he was a great player. There is no bias at all, I recognise him as one of the all-time greats. The truth is that Dublin have a big enough population and funding advantage that there will probably be goalkeepers as good, if not better, than Cluxton in the future. He is the only one I am not 100% on, the rest the population and funding will ensure it without a doubt.
I agree equalising funding at this stage is too late, only a split will work. It should have been done years ago, from all sources. The lad who won six-in-a-row may not have been identified and brought to his maximum potential without the funding; as always, this is not a bad thing if done fairly but Dublin alone benefit from an enormous funding advantage from the GAA and other sources
Rock didn't, that was the difference
And he did it with that king of the sore losers Keegan throwing crap at him to put him off. Still amazed at how much of a free pass he got at the time, if Connolly or Philly Mc had done something similar, they'd still be getting lashed out of it in the press and by other supporters. "Dirty Mayo" doesn't have quite the same alliteration as the Dirty Dubs, though.
Cheaters never win, Keegan. Says a lot when a county full of also-rans considers such a scumbag as their greatest ever player. Delighted he never got a winner's medal.
Where should south dublin play their home games?
I disagree you provide no evidence that splitting Dublin will help Leitrim. All you want is to weaken Dublin to help your own County.
A split will not work , as mentioned god knows how many times.
It is a 4 or 5 way split for Dublin thats needed apparently.. so say Dublin South East might have 3 adults clubs in the 'county' championship and to pick players from and no ground to play at. But this is a good thing for GAA :/
Who says it would just be South and North Dublin? It's probable they'll have to be split into 4+ teams to really help the GAA and reduce the current unfairness. But teams can share home grounds if necessary, even if that ground is much not technically within that team's catchment area. It would still be a shorter commute than for players in larger counties like Cork or Donegal.
A politician's answer. Instead of responding to the question asked, shift the goalposts, create a new scenario and then refuse to provide answers for the new scenario.
Where would the 4 Dublin teams play? Or 8? Or 10 teams? Where are they all gonna play and how are they going to share home grounds if they're all playing at the same time?
Exactly, this benefits the GAA enormously, from Dublin right down to Leitrim. It reduces the current unfairness in the system where Dublin alone enjoy all the advantages. It instead disperses these advantages across multiple teams. While it's not an ideal solution (what is?); it's far, far better than the status quo.
Your talking rubbish again , a split wont work
Dublin alone don't enjoy all the advantages .
Let’s say I’m saying there is a north south split. Where would the south team play?
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