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Is there life after death or maybe life on other planets?

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These are the big questions, much more important than anything else. I'd love to do some reading on the subject of whether there is a God or not, if anyone has suggestions. Not religious books, stuff showing evidence or otherwise.

I'd imagine there is life on some other planets, the universe if fecking huge, it'd be strange if earth was the only place with life.

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dxhound2005

Never mind meeting them, it is impossible to communicate with them. If a life form which existed five million years ago on a planet ten million light years away had sent out a signal, what would happen if we picked it up today? They could be extinct for millions of years, and our reply would not get back there for ten million years.

And those distances are the equivalent of going to the next room in a house, compared to the outer reaches which would be like going to Australia.

Leg End Reject

I have a vague memory of bacteria being detected in material taken from another planet and evidence that there was once water there. Was it Mars?

Life after death? I don't think so beyond our atoms being redistributed.

Life on other planets? I'd say very likely. I like @o1s1n's theory here:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121597306#Comment_121597306

billyhead

Life after death. Yes. I like to think so.

Other life forms on other planets. Yes aswell. There has to be.

saabsaab

Time is an illusion. At least according to Physics..

Cordell

Yes and yes. But the first yes must be understood as most of your atoms will go on living, but you as a person, certainly not. Notions like eternal life or soul are ridiculous and created just because humans can't accept that the death is their end.

dxhound2005

Even though the Milky Way is a small galaxy, it still has a lot of stars and planets. So it would make sense to look there first.

"Our galaxy probably contains 100 to 400 billion stars, and is about 100,000 light-years across."

tom23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058330656/is-there-life-after-death-or-maybe-life-on-other-planets

Life after death. No. We came we saw we died. Life on other planets. There has to be. At what stage of development?.. who knows... if we found life? Fine Gale would try and tax it.

Glaceon

IMHO of course…

The universe is too vast for us to be the only life in existence so I’d be almost certain that there is life on other planets. But the laws of physics would suggest that it’s unlikely we’d cross paths.

I’m not so sure about life after death. My logical side tells me no but some anecdotal bits seem to suggest that something is there.

Tony EH

Life after death? More than likely no.

Life on other planets? More than likely yes...

...but, it may not be life as we understand it and there's almost certainly nothing in our galaxy in immediate terms anyway. But considering there are an incredible number of planets and solar systems out there, the odds that some kind of life exists elsewhere is quite high, even if it's just a single cell organism.

I think when mankind does eventually come across a lifeform on another planet, an awful lot of people are going to be mightily underwhelmed.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121597248#Comment_121597248

I don't

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121598369#Comment_121598369

Fermi got the idea from a chap on Neptune.

endacl

There is life after death. It’s just that you won’t be in it.

TinyMuffin

The Fermi paradox tries to explain life on other planets.

[Deleted User]

I was never religious, so when it comes to death i believe it was like before we were born and when you're gone, you're gone. When it comes to life on other planets i would say yes, It doesn't have to be intelligence life but i would say it's nearly a given considering how vast space is. There could be some dinosaur type life just going about their business, but i don't think we'd be sitting down and having a cup of tea and a chat soon.

Buddy Bubs

Life on other planets, almost certainly yes, and loads of it. Just too vast and plentiful of energy sources and planets for there not to. Will we ever make contact? Probably not, lifespans too short to even scratch the surface of intergalactic travel.

Life after death? Almost certainly no. We are organic matter, nothing more.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058330656/is-there-life-after-death-or-maybe-life-on-other-planets

I can’t recommend a single book to start with to be honest. I get where you’re coming from wanting to avoid religious or spirituality related stuff, but I’d imagine it’s impossible to avoid references to it or being able to place those references in context in order to get any real insight into anything if you’re determined to avoid them.

It’s really not strange at all if there were no life, or life as we know it, on other planets. The fact that we’re here at all is due to a cosmic sequence of events, and the way things are going, there’s no reason to assume we’ll still be here millions of years from now. But just for shìts n giggles, the Fermi paradox is a good place to start which might give you a jumping off point to start from -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Then hit up Amazon and check the book reviews.

positron

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121597356#Comment_121597356

Are you saying atheist believe that Richard Dawkins doesn't exist?

Rubberchikken

Is there a God? ..I'd like to think there might be.

Life after death. ..doubtful .

Life on other planets? . Brain says no. Heart says hope there is. Cos if humans are the smartest then we're doomed

Baba Yaga

life after death? no...though id like to think so..

life in the rest of the universe? oh siht yeah,stands to reason out of all the other planets out there...have they visited us and abducted people?nope...

dxhound2005

Also mildly interesting. You could speak to someone today who spoke to someone who was alive during the famine. Born 1930 and 1840, died 1935.

Life on earth probably arrived from other planets. If some new ones arrived now, humans would probably treat them like the No Irish were treated. And in the future we will colonise other worlds, where we will be the Aliens.

893bet

sometning mildly interesting I thought was when someone asked my great grandparents names. Not a clue of even 1.

it’s only takes 3 generations to be fully forgotten as such. Put in perspective how important you are.

Kiith

Life after death? No, and that's absolutely fine.

Life on other planets? Yes, though we (as a species) will never meet them.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121597356#Comment_121597356

Ha! Yeah, I'd like to read stuff on the subject from people who aren't ideologically motivated, if you know wor I mean.

UI_Paddy

I'm considering picking up The Works of His Hands by Sy Garte, he's a retired biochemist and came from three generations of militant atheists but talks about his conversion to faith. I've listened to lots of interviews with him, and he seems quite humble and non-preachy, so not like some other born again Christians.

The Language of God by Francis Collins is also good, from what I've heard. Again it's written by a scientist, so it's not like it's from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Although from the talks I've heard by him he doesn't talk much about an afterlife, moreso the improbability of our existence assuming there was no supernatural force behind it all.

Jeffrey Long also wrote a book called Evidence of the Afterlife, which is fascinating if your interested in the subject of NDEs. He is a radiation oncologist and has studied thousands of cases of people who have briefly been to the other side and has been convinced there is an afterlife.

I'm not sure about books on the possibility of life on other planets but I'd have to assume there is someone here who has looked into it. I think there may be life elsewhere in the universe, but as of now there's probably no way of knowing for sure.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121597370#Comment_121597370

'You cannot realistically come to a shared understanding of reality in a meaningful way without some sort of material proof.'

I don't think you're digging deep enough here.

You assume materialism is the fundamental bottom line of reality (which it is for you and other Irish atheists), but must know that most societies past and even present have had a spiritual basis/shared understanding. Therefore how is it unrealistic to have a non-material basis for a society? It isn't.

To take it a level deeper, in evolutionary biology - Darwin and after - the strongest objective material evidence that a society has gone fundamentally wrong is below replacement fertility: a society that is literally dying out. (Over the cycle of a few generations, not observably before our eyes.)

Now this dysfunction might be genetic or it might be due to the society's belief system or some combination but consider that in the Western world - Mormons, Muslims and a few other devout religious groups are the only exceptions to this below-replacement fertility.

Now if you understand biology you will understand that that is, like I said, objective material evidence of a society's self-destruction. How do you account for this?

Cluedo Monopoly

After Death = No

Life on Planets = Perhaps

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121597323#Comment_121597323

You cannot realistically come to a shared understanding of reality in a meaningful way without some sort of material proof.

Greek philosophical ideas are great to debate and gain deeper understanding of the mind, but ultimately if you want to come to actual conclusions that cross boarders / nationality / peoples, they need to be based in physical reality.

Everything else is just personal belief which is massively subjective.

dxhound2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121597344#Comment_121597344

I have seen no evidence of the intellect necessary to produce your line of reasoning coming from anywhere else.

paddyisreal

1. Who knows

2. Who knows

As for reading Richard Dawkins, he's an extreme atheist with a certain viewpoint. Atheists love him, he's their God.

Pauliedragon

Surely us dumbass humans can't be seen as the top of the ladder when it comes to life. As for an afterlife I'm very sceptical.