Following on from main thread in Current Affairs about Tubs in general (now closed and mod suggestion that Entertainment category is more suitable).
Indeed, entertainment in certain respects is what Tubs has provided, albeit perhaps in a way not intended. And still awaiting 150k payback to the licence fee holder.
And of course, his new career in Virgin Radio which is imminent.
copying some frequent posters from original thread.
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Cat-Mod: See post here regarding off-topic segues.
What about ‘influencers’ that are being paid to post positive comments ?
Will he be on dodgy ground when they run out of money to pay them ?
Excess deaths is a very different metric (more available data and more reliable data) to the immediate Sentiment Analysis that Social Media provides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis
Feedback on Social Media is often quite raw and unfiltered. Negative feedback always appears quickly but it only becomes a problem if it gains momentum and becomes sustained. The danger is that "influencers" would start commenting negatively. That hasn't happened yet. Tubridy may have to tone down the wibbling about Ireland and start concentrating on London and UK events. But that might not work for his Irish listeners.
Regards...jmcc
Yes. Being totally frank, those are the kind of people who I would assume take Facebook comments seriously, or post comments about radio presenters on Facebook in the first place. Facebook is an irreversibly tainted platform for howyas.
Or renounce vaccines manufactured in sterile labs but are fiends for the coke made in a hole in a forest
I would imagine the PP sponsorship is tied to the host rather than the slot. Let’s face it, I’d doubt NK is that stupid? Even so, I’d say PP threatening to pull its advertising off Tubbs was to be let go would steady a few heads. I would imagine it’s NK doing the deals here rather than PP directly and PP aren’t exactly stuck for UK promotion anyway. I’d imagine NK has a budget to play with and is using it accordingly with “star” appearances from PP himself thrown in to fasten tge deal.
That reminds me of when the usual head the ball conspiracy theory types on, yes, Facebook cite RIP.ie posts instead of CSO figures as their source for “excess deaths” or whatever.
The kind of people who don’t “trust the government” or think “RTE is the real virus” but will swallow any old shít they see on Facebook or Twitter.
Way too early for that kind of move and it would make a lot of people look stupid for Virgin hiring him. The first RAJAR and JNLR figures might have some input on what happens but it also depends on the contract with Virgin.
I wonder what boc would do if he was offered 90k for his next contract, 90k is a nice little top up to any salary, I'd say he'd take it 😂
Well, this bursts the argument once and for all that RTE have to pay big bucks to keep the "talent". Most of them aren't any better than you'd get on local radio.
The thing is the industry is a small business, and if there's other local potents genuinely interested in that slot then Ryan very much made done half their spade work with his first week.
I won't be surprised if he's gone by the end of next week and the station will still bag a year of paddy power sponsorship.
He has zero leverage with the UK public and he talks too much about Ireland to endear himself to his host nation.
They might as well interview the guy that introduced heroin to Ireland
It’s not just RT & NK in bed with Paddy Power. Over the Christmas I caught a bit of the racing on RTE. They did a segment with interviewing members of the Power family out for the day at the races. Nothing wrong with going out in your private life. PP and his family are entitled to do what they like as private individuals but RTE should have known better. It left a really bad taste in my mouth as there were no doubt houses in the country who couldn’t do a normal Christmas this year due to this guys business. I’m pretty sure at this stage that gambling companies will pretty much back anything if it gets them exposure. Shame on Tubbs
Even the British listeners are saying that the show is aimed at the Irish market. First week has been a disaster for him.
The funny thing is virgin have a years sponsorship deal from paddypower, so if they let him go next week they'll have made a profit.
The whole Paddypower connection was a contrived set up acted out by a ham - Guess who turns up on NK's CMS website - Exploring how to get a few more quid from the Irish public
Bakhurst said he would not deal with Kelly, that is not to say that others in RTÉ will not work with him. Bakhurst is basically removing himself should a conflict of interest arise again with agents. Bakhurst does not want to be in a position where he promises something he cannot promise. He's looking from the view point of his predecessor and her decision to speak directly to Kelly and to make decisions unilaterally.
If Bakhurst is smart he will avoid agents, allow his managers to negotiate a deal and then to present the deal to the DG who will then bring that deal to the board. It means that the DG is at arm length to the deal. It should then allow the DG to say, no I don't think this is a good deal, but should the DG bring it to the board then the board has the option of also saying no you need to go back to the negotiating table.
BTW that is not to say that the management shouldn't fight for the proposal to be brought to the board or that the DG should not fight to save the deal if he thinks that it will not be approved by the board.
I don't think Bakhurst is massively happy with Kelly but I don't think he is saying that he dislikes anyone or that he is banning anyone.
I think it's great
Yep, legally? Is there any law that says that RTE must do business with a particular company? Bakhurst said that he would talk to the contractors directly and he was talking to Tubridy directly about a new radio contract which involved a repayment of the 150K.
What grounds would he gave to exclude him? Legally? You don’t think it’s slightly worrying that the DG can publically proclaim his dislike of an individual and summarily ban him from doing business with the largest broadcaster in the country?
On what grounds? And if Bakhurst decided to treat all contractors equally about their future with RTE?
I can’t help but think NK would have a fair legal case against RTE if it’s DG were to single them out as a company he would refuse to do business with. Silly macho posturing from Bakhurst.
One comment.
Universally negative comments on Tubridy, on the Virgin Radio Facebook page.
The fallout from the Tubridy payments scandal isn't over yet. Kevin Bakhurst mentioned that he would not be talking to Noel Kelly when contracts for his clients are up for renewal. Instead, he would be talking directly with the contractors. The fact that no Irish broadcaster picked up Tubridy after RTE dumped him may have come as a bit of a shock. RTE is also in trouble financially even with the bailout. The 150K is always going to be a problem with RTE even if he pays it back. Approximately 400 people will lose their jobs in RTE. While some of the job losses would have been due to retirements, it will create resentment among those remaining in RTE.
Tubridy on a fraction of the salary in Virgin is a very powerful argument for Bakhurst when it comes to renegotiating contracts. It also creates a major problem for Tubridy if he wishes to return to Irish broadcasting (rather than being simulcasted from Virgin via Q102 etc). If he was willing to work for a fraction of what RTE paid then why should any Irish broadcaster pay closer to his RTE salary?
Without the Q102 simulcast, the Virgin job could be seen as an attempt to break into UK commercial radio. With the Q102 simulcast, it seems like part of an attempt to keep him in the Irish market.
I see that Virgin have invested in Tom Allen British comedian for their Sunday afternoon slot 12.30-16.00. And they've given that a littlepromotion.
Read this article from Radio Today, which is a decent outfit. It doesn't hype RT at all, just mentions at the end that he started this week.
Virgin aren't promoting him, & it seems RT is renting the seat from them via PP to promote himself & his brand. A pound to a penny he'll be broadcasting live from Cheltenham this year. It's a win win for Virgin as he'll be showing off his 'celeb contacts' on their platform.
That may go well if his hubris doesn't get in the way again...& that's unlikely, I'd bet money with PP on that one. 😁
Will Q102 still broadcast the show even when Tubridy is off?
Watch the figures from RAJAR ( www. rajar . co . uk ) for Virgin and the JNLR for Q102 etc. The figures tend to be quarterly.
When you realize that everything that comes out of Tubridy's gob has a twin agenda of A) self promotion / enrichment and aggrandizement and B) virtue signalling, it all makes perfect sense.
I wasn't aware of that. I remember Tubs getting in trouble a few years back for virtually handing over an entire radio programme to promote Paddy Power's grubby business. My main gripe about it is the fact that he called himself the Toyman and was always lamenting how badly treated children are in Ireland. Then he goes off in cahoots with PP, a man whose company is responsible for causing so much misery for families and young children across the country. As he showed last summer, he only has morals when it suits himself. Comes across as an absolute snake in the grass.
Of course, well remembered.
