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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121570345#Comment_121570345

So all on the individual no blame for mega rich corporations profiting from unhealthy foods with huge marketing budgets.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121571222#Comment_121571222

Yes it's called individual responsibility.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121571254#Comment_121571254

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No individual responsibility for all the people profiting from unhealthy foods?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121571254#Comment_121571254

Well that's a bit unfair considering the huge amount of money these companies spend making there food addictive

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So no difference according to if you get your calories from say Fats, or sugars, or carbohydrate?

if you ate 2000 calories a day of bread & butter instead of 2000 calories a day of steak or salmon you’ll get fat.

I agree with you though that ultimately it is your decision making at the end of the day what you eat but the other side of it is that company’s make they’re product’s so addictive & tasty it’s hard for people to say no, unless it’s too expensive usually.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121570345#Comment_121570345

So no difference according to if you get your calories from say Fats, or sugars, or carbohydrate?

if you ate 2000 calories a day of bread & butter instead of 2000 calories a day of steak or salmon you’ll get fat.

unless it’s too expensive usually.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121571338#Comment_121571338

And it's your individual responsibility to choose not to eat what they’re selling.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121571423#Comment_121571423

Where do we draw the line with personal responsibility.

Like say with guns do we just let everyone have guns and tell them not to use for violence and crime.

I mean it's up to their personal responsibility, right?

Legalise all drugs and all people not to misuse or give to children.

Or are children also to be held personally responsible?

whisky_galore

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I've yet to see a fast food place selling raw celery and rice cakes. They'd go out of business pretty quickly as that's not what many people look for in a snack.

Anyone with half a brain knows fast food isn't that good and it's made as cheaply as possible. Salt, sugar/sugar substitutes and fat are not that expensive.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121571461#Comment_121571461

For example on gun ownership the line will be drawn as to exclude people who believe that corporations and marketing is what makes them fat - these people clearly aren't responsible enough to own guns.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121571716#Comment_121571716

Everyone knows fast food is bad for you, Its only fair to point out that avoiding unhealthy food is not easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121569547#Comment_121569547

Spoilt dogs cause no harm. Spoilt children grow up to be w@nkers.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121572123#Comment_121572123

Actually dogs with no training and no boundaries can become quite dangerous, together with the owners who don't train themselves in basic understanding of dogs. My bully never bite, he just growls, this sound familiar?

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So its the owners then?

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121572099#Comment_121572099

People can make choices, if they choose unhealthy food because they are lazy and stupid, well that's on them.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121572214#Comment_121572214

There are socio-economic factors at play as well.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121572164#Comment_121572164

Almost always it's the owner. Even when the owner chooses to buy a dog of a breed that shouldn't exist it's still the owner's fault.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121572258#Comment_121572258

You can make healthy meals quite cheaply. Everyone has a powerful mini computer in their hand that no one had a few decades ago, you can google cheap quick recipes. No excuse really.

It would seem a controversial opinion for this thread but marketing and advertising might be effective.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121572214#Comment_121572214

I see you have a very simplistic view of life. A lot of people have an emotional attachment to tasty food.

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Good tasting food need not necessarily be unhealthy though. It's possible to prepare a decent, enjoyable and wholesome meal quite cheaply as long as you're willing to put the effort in. @whisky_galore makes a very valid point.

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Yes healthy food can taste nice but it's not as nice as unhealthy food. The makers of unhealthy food often know how to use extra sugar or fat to give that hit of dopamine. I eat healthy 75% of the time but it requires time, effort and a little discipline. If someone has a stressful job, are a parent or going through a tough time eating healthy can be quite challenging.

kowloonkev

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I think you're a bit confused. Individual responsibility (or personal responsibility) means you take responsibility for yourself, not for others. I'm sure the vast majority of wealthy business owners are looking after themselves.

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I think it can mean both Kev. And that was the whole joke.

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Personal: belonging to a person.

Responsibility: the state of having a duty.

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Hoop66

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I can let you have half a hundredweight, cheap?

randd1

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On a Saturday when you have a few hours, go to the shop.

A 1kg bag of pasta = €2 tops of generic store brand. A 1kg bag of spaghetti, generic store brand = €1.50. Mixed herbs, store brand = €1.50. Large tray of Mushrooms = €2. 3pk Peppers = €2-€2.50. Bag of onions = €2 tops. 3 large chicken fillets, €5.50 in most supermarkets. Large jar of pasta sauce = €3.50. 1Kg of lean mince, around €6 in a butchers. Light fry spray oil = €3.50. Garlic = €1.

Chop up the mushrooms, two onions (3 if small), the peppers, two cloves of garlic and the chicken.

Use three sprays of the fry oil, and light fry the chicken on a pan with one clove of chopped garlic. In a saucepan, two sprays of the fry oil and put on the mince to simmer on a medium temperature with the other half of the garlic. On another pan, one spray and light fry the the mushrooms. When the mushrooms are just done, add in the peppers and onions. Keep going with the mince until it is brown. Put on 500g of the pasta (we use fusili). When the mince (leave in the saucepan you were using off the hob), chicken, mushrooms, onions and peppers are all done, place them in separate bowls. When the pasta is cooked, strain it properly, place back in the (cleaned) saucepan and add 1/3 of the pasta sauce, one small tablespoon of mixed herbs, 1/3 of the mushrooms, 1/3 of the onions, 1/3 the peppers and all the chicken. Add the rest of the vegetables, pasta sauce and a tablespoon of mixed herbs to the mince, mix up, and leave simmer on a low temperature for 10-15 minutes, stirring occasionally until just warm.

Go eat the pasta/chicken dinner, which should be enough for a family of two adults and three children (more than enough in our house).

The whole process should take one person 90 minutes max from chopping to finished eating.

When finished eating, take off the simmering mince, leave it cool, split it into 3 portions which combined with remaining pasta/spaghetti should be another three dinners, and freeze the portions for dinners on days you're stuck for time.

A bit time consuming on a Saturday/Sunday I know, and a little bland, but if you can do it, that's €31 for four healthy dinners, with pasta/onion/spray oil/garlic/mixed herbs left over for use in other dinners/lunches.

PS - If you fancy going all out and having a treat on a Saturday, get some pre-cooked rolls (€2), garlic Butter (€2) and mixed mozzarella/cheddar (€2), the cheaper the better. Cut the rolls in half, put the garlic butter on them and stick them on a tray in the oven. When they're about 1/2 done, put on a sprinkling of the mixed cheese and leave until the cheese is just starting to brown. Savage.

randd1

And for you student types,

McDonnels noodles (€1.70), mushrooms (€1) and a pepper (€1). Chop the mushrooms and peppers. Fry the mushrooms with one blast of spray oil on a high temperature. When nearly done, thrown on the peppers until the mushrooms are done. Cook the noodles as normal. When the noodles are done, adding the mushrooms and peppers (should have some crunch still in them). Very quick, very filling, mostly healthy, and cheap.

There used to be a thing called the student cookbook, gave little recipes like that, nothing fancy but dirt cheap, it was a goldmine.