US, UK, France and Germany condemns Iran's increasing nuclear enrichment production.
And not one mention of poor North Korea who have nuclear weapons too although if they are anything like the ammo they supplied to the Russians they will be useless too if they ever try to use them.
I see they Kim Kong Un is in the news today again do threatening South Korea and America with War again lol.
Impossible to know what you're referring to if you post sound bites with no context.
Not being able to back up your original claim, you've shifted to entirely different subject.
The displacement of Palestinians has been happening since before the creation of Israel. It turned violent because they attacked each other. Which lead to war, and thus more displacement, and ethic cleansing of various levels.
It's got nothing to do with Iran and nuclear weapons. Why people want to drag the same old issues into every thread I have no idea.
Yet they have been under attack for 70+ years
He thought people would pick the lesser of two evils. Which was a monumental error, and a complete misread of how stubborn people especially in that region are. That's before you get into Iran's involment.
Inexplicable really.
Kind of a curious one with the Iranians / Houthis attacking the ships in the Red Sea and trying to choke off + damage trade.
Under the openly declared purpose, it seems to be an undeclared Iranian war focussed on Europe's shipping more than anything else.
I think they pirated 1 ship with Israeli links at start but after that, have they even dared to attack an Israeli or US ship or tanker? All I read of being attacked are European and Asian owned + run ships.
Also a strange absence of Chinese targets so far, given their giant shipping industry.
Do the massive CCP shipping cos boycott Israel for the "cause"? I doubt it if there is money to be made there, lol.
I assume they want to expand the conflict, into as many countries as they can.
IMO there's also a certain amount of showboating, nibbling at US heels and attacking shipping with speed boats, missiles and drones. Delusions of grandeur maybe, but that sort of posturing is typical and people suck it up regardless. So it's great PR even if it achieves little.
No one attacked north Korea because A they are a Chinese Vassel state,B they currently have in excess of 10,000 + artillery and rocket systems pointed at Seoul any attack on nk would be devastating for Seoul,
Iran is a different kettle of fish,they can't threaten Israel directly but Israel can get to Iran directly and have done several times including this year
I suppose (back on subject of thread) a stash of untested nuclear weapons or being over a threshold now where they can assemble weapons quickly + growing confidence in their missile projects could explain why Iran has become so openly aggressive + risk taking in last few years.
edit: As they proliferate the nukes (and ICBMs) are becoming a trump card or immunity shield that the "nuclear" countries hold over others without them, which is only going to drive more proliferation.
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Going by EOTR's posting history and blinkered, siloed thinking it wouldn't surprise me if that didn't bother them one bit.
Look at all the wars (and proxy wars) countries with Nukes have been involved in.
It's really only stopped the main powers from direct conflict. Hasn't stopped proxy wars.
Them Chinese are supplying the Islamic terrorists
@Flinty997 - Why are you attributing words to someone that they never said? Post no 19 made no mention of Japan at all.
In any case it is well-known that Japan was already trying to negotiate an end to the war before the US dropped those bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Many are of the opinion that the bombs were dropped to make Japan surrender before the Soviet Union would be in a position to demand a bit of the post-war Japanese pie.
Regardless of the truth of that matter, the fact remains that only the USA has ever used atomic weapons in war, and to devastating effect. Had they not done so, maybe no other country would have felt the need to develop their own for their defence.
they did come about because israel stole land for the sake of it.
israel invaded other countries first, then claimed they were going to be invaded when in reality, the other countries got wind that they were going to be attacked and mobilised their forces to simply protect their borders but nothing more, yet israel blackmailed america and got enough military aid to be able to force back those armies from their own country's borders while over running palestine.
even israely generals admitted this stuff.
I guess that part of the quid pro quo is for Iran to get the plans to build advanced Russian air defence systems. They would be a huge game changer if deployed in Lebanon and Syria as Israel would no longer be able to bomb those countries at will.
Perhaps so, but Iran has spent the last 30 years avoiding that sort of quagmire, while building up their economy - including their armed forces. I suspect that they are more cautious that you imagine.
And in the US you wouldn't want to be black, native American or Muslim.
that's what happens when a state does not stay within it's borders.
israel is being attacked because of it's actions and greed.
I think the current go-to guys to blame are "the muslims". I've been hearing them being blamed for all sorts of things for years now, and all sorts of insults about them (all billion plus of them indiscriminately) are wheeled out as though they had some foundation in fact.
It sort of reminds me of 1930s Europe regarding the Jews, and something similar was applied to catholics/Irish/blacks/Roma/travellers - to name but a few - down the years.
Are you telling me that Israel hasn't been at war with the Palestinians since 1947? I must have been reading the wrong history books ...
The times reporting US & UK are set to bomb the Houthi's in Yemen.
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Israel evacuated the Jewish settlements in Gaza - by force when necessary
I think Israel evacuated jews from Gaza so that it could attack the place - as it is now doing and also as it has done in the past - without any fear of killing their own.
Not only that but you have more moral authority in you fingernail clippings than Nethanyahu, his government and his army have between them.
There's a couple of things here.
First, the UN didn't give Israel any land, they organised the division of Palestine into two entities that were intended to come under a single state. The Jewish were given control over more that half the area, and were only a small majority in that area.
Second, the UN gave no land to anyone - they simply set up two connected self-governing areas. Ownership of the land remained as it was until the Jewish entity proclaimed independence, murdered many of the Arab inhabitants and dispossessed a great many more. Insofar as Israel has recognised boundaries, they are the boundaries of 1947.
Finally, in 1947 the UN represented only around a quarter of the member countries it has today - half of them in the Americas. All those colonies in Africa, Asia etc, as well as most of central and SE Europe were not party to the carve-up of Palestine any more than they were party to the carve-up of Africa back in the 1880s. Israel would never have come into existence if those colonies had been independent at the time, so in reality that decision, to divide Palestine in two doesn't rest on any great moral authority any more than laws made before universal suffrage existed can be said to enjoy democratic approval.
If you are talking about Israel, they have been on the attack for over 70 years.
They've been attacking each other forever.
Seems you only read selective pages for some reason.
It really worries me too when I see mental opinons like the one you replied to.....pure brain vomit...imo they are either indoctrinated, paid shill types or playing with a limited deck...
That's the problem. Why no mention of Japan and the 30m+ they had killed. How can you both just ignore that.
Japan hadn't surrendered when the bombs were dropped. Up to that point they'd consistently failed to surrender even when the battle was hopeless.
Germany and Japan were aware of fission before the war. Germany was ahead of the US initially. So it's gibberish to suggest if the US hadn't working in the area no one else would have done. Russia obviously captured German scientists and equipment and rolled that into their projects.
You might want to check these history books you're reading. They seem to have lots of pages missing.
We are constantly being told that Israel is under constant existential threat from all it's neighbours, including Hamas armed with AK's and RPG's, yet Israel are capable of launching precision long range airstrikes against a modern air defense equipped nation. By your own admission Iran is no match for Israel so how can they pose a threat to their existance. This narrative doesn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny and well you know it. Israel's neighbours may want them wiped off the map, but much like Leitrim starting every year saying they're going to win the All ireland, it ain't going to happen and everyone knows it.
Theres a vast cost in defending against/fighting policing all these wars and guerilla and terrorists. Long distance strikes are a whole different ball game to all out war.
Not entirely sure what your point is. Israel should just soak it up? What?
