There's both a pretty good blueprint in place and his history of screwing people over. If Rudy thinks he's special, he's in for a rude awakening if Trump wins again.
What I find so tragically funny is that Rudy in his many cases taken contesting the election he repeated the mantra of 'all will be revealed in court' yet when he's asked in court to produce said evidence he replies with that he's got theories but no evidence, and he gets disbarred as a result.
And then the same thing happens with the defamation case, he claims that he's got all the evidence and that those poor people he defamed are guilty of the crimes he's alleged, yet in court he comes up with zilch. And now he's got an order to pay hundreds of millions as a result.
One could almost forgive someone who's no history in the court (and a very dubious attorney representing them) but Rudi took down the Italian mob, and would be very familiar with the necessity of having rock solid evidence in court. The mind boggles
And then walks out of the court and repeats the same lie!!
It's incredibly hard to actually understand the thought process here.
He was at one point a pretty competent lawyer , why on earth would he do that?
To what end??
Let’s put it this way. I’d rather be in Rudy Guiliani’s shoes than the two election workers if Trump got re-elected.
I think hes very mentally unwell, and has gotten himself into such a pickle that his only thought is to deny the reality of the situation and to double down on the bullsh!t that he's been spouting.
The fact that he's saying he wasn't allowed to present any evidence is bizarre. Didn't he elect not to testify in the case?
Hence the (legally)
It's the same angle Trump uses - decides not to testify and then pretends like it wasn't his choice.
Interesting background on the Crossfire Hurricane binder and Drumpf's obsession with "mentally declassified" top secret information
https://thinkbigpicture.substack.com/p/trump-binder-russia-crossfire-hurricane
Colorado Supreme Court rules Donald Trump is "disqualified" from serving as president under 14th Amendment
Hopefully it's the end of him.
"Donald Trump is ineligible for the US presidency under the constitution's insurrection clause, the Colorado Supreme Court has ruled.
The ruling comes as the former US leader prepares to run for the presidency in 2024.
Trump is accused of inciting riots at the US Capitol Building in an effort to overturn the result after he lost the US election in 2020."
I'm going to be pretty disappointed if this doesn't get him at least struck of the ballot in that state.
Whatever the case, my fear is that rulings such as these, while correct, will contribute to a backlash against claimed judicial overreach, which could end up being good for Trump. However, if a ruling is correct, then it's correct, so I don't say that it shouldn't have been made.
The end? Not even close.
Link to the Colorado SC story. That verdict bars Trump from the Colorado ballot and will be appealed to the USSC IMO.
It will very quickly lay bare just how married certain justices are to the notion of Trump brand conservatism. I would also expect quite a uptick in stochastic terrorism and lunatic GOP bolloxology in Congress.
Yes ,very interesting.Hopefully very consequential as well.Meadows does physically look like the battery bunny.
Set the hounds ,boys :-)
Indeed "The end" is very wishful thinking.
It was always ,imo a very long shot that he could be removed from the ballot in this way.
Not that it wouldn't be deserved,of course.
The ruling is on stay pending appeal to the SCOTUS,I understand.
Shall tune into CNN tonight for the commentaries.
The whole world is just out to get some people, isn't it? Sucks to be you.
What a completely strange way to spend the precious little time we have on earth.
There's very little chance that the US Supreme Court will want to involve itself in keeping the leading GOP candidate off the ballot. Unfortunately this will be overturned quite quickly, and in my view, it'd be much better to give Trump a resounding beating at the ballot box (again) than keep him off the ballot altogether. This will simply be portrayed as the judicial system interfering in the political system and could be just as damaging in the long run as another Trump term.
I don't have a problem with the USSC striking the ruling down so long as the decision comes from a legal opinion and not from a political bias. It would be disappointing, absolutely, but cynicism about judicial rulings plays directly into Trump's hands since his whole political project depends on nurturing this kind of distrust.
Tend to agree ( the f er also thrives on chaos)
He hasn't been convicted of insurrection. They may as well have ruled he can't run as he's actually a Mexican citizen because people say so
In other words it will get swiftly appealed and overturned.
You see this is the **** nonsense that may end up actually getting him elected. Pushing those in the middle towards him when they see this absolute shite going on
Sure ,it may well work to his advantage.
But the Supreme Court of Colorado has found that he engaged in insurrection (I think).
So that is pretty close to a conviction.
A finding ,anyway.
What is the alternative -to prevent members of the public from taking him to court for being unqualified to stand?
They are right even it was unwise and it was their political,civil and moral right
@Sonic the Shaghog
I watched Donald Trump, then the sitting POTUS, take to a podium near the US Capitol and proclaim an absolute whopper of a lie to a crowd of angry supporters. Several months before that, he took to a podium and told the crowd that if they were he lost the election, that meant it would be rigged. He was consciously and deliberately trying to undermine confidence in the election and attempting to overturn its result by illegal means. We have him on tape trying to get the Georgia SOS to 'find' more votes, as well.
It's only because of the due process which comes with liberal democracy that Trump has not yet been convicted of insurrection or inciting same.
Yes he has been convicted of insurrection in Colorado https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/18/colorado-judge-says-trump-engaged-in-insurrection-but-keeps-him-on-ballot
Any clown contributing to this guy while complaining that inflation is making them broke can **** right off
Scott Perry when asked to turn over his messages..
It'll be interesting to see if the USSC overturns this and what legal basis, if any, they'll have to do so. In any other period in time this would be the end of the guy, not that the end shouldn't have been a long time ago, but in the current atmosphere in the USA, who knows.
I doubt it will matter a jot to his followers and the MAGA members of the GOP. It's the very definition of a Cult now, and completely far removed from politics as is possible.
"Quick, give me money! No time to think, just donate donate donate!!".
Yeah. A totally normal, ideologically solid movement this MAGA thing is.
Fúcking snort. Funny how certain individuals disappear when the quantifiable shít hits the fan around Trump.
The Colorado SC was a 4:3 verdict in a completely Democratic Court. Wouldn't have much faith in SC going with it. I think needs a full court conviction on the matter for it to sway.
But there was a full court conviction , it was that conviction that the Colorado SC reviewed and upheld.
Agree though that a 4:3 judgement suggest that there is enough wiggle room for the SCOTUS to kick it back.
I see that those ardent "Champions of States Rights" , the GOP are looking to introduce legislation that would remove the rights of States to be allowed to decide who can run for Election in their state.
Another in a long line of "Rights for me, but not for thee" actions by these absolute charlatans.
For the sake of discussion, let's say this ban actually sticks. You'd wonder; what are the chances that enough swing states follow suit? This is likely a non-issue for Trump in Deep-Red states, but if enough purple states disqualify him for being the traitor that we all know he is; he's likely blocked from winning enough electoral votes.
There's positives and negatives I feel. Positives are that Trump's chances are damaged. The GOP themselves might even find themselves having to choose their canditate from the pool of bell-ends who actually turn up for debates and are not currently labeled as traitors. (I doubt the GOP can even manage that, but it's not impossible)
The negative possibility is that the anti-Trump vote might not be as energised to come out if they get the sense that he hasn't a chance. The vote still needs to get out, and the danger of him winning I feel is a motiviating factor. Apathy could still give him the win.
