How do people feel about this one? Will it be short and sweet?
Mod warning:
https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121425200/#Comment_121425200
It’s 100% true. If public transport is available you have to use it.
I live in a rural area miles from Dublin but job was based in Dublin. All mileage claims were calculated from Dublin (as that would be closer) but as Dublin has public transport everywhere my claim would be based on that even though that was no use to me due to where I lived.
None of the exceptions you listed ever mattered to my travel.
You still have not answered the question, do you honestly not understand the difference between nominal wage growth and real wage growth?
And some lower, again depending on circumstances. I know my electric bill has decreased sharply. You hit the nail on the head with that line though, depending on circumstances. It’s probably the reason why people still think a 7% increase is quite decent.
eurozone inflation running at 5.4% this year and projected (who knows with various wars ongoing at present) to be 2.9% for next year
of course many workers are experiencing higher than this depending on their circumstances
Quit with the aggression mate. it's not cool at all at this stage.
What figure would you vote for?
Prices won’t fall. You are crazy if you think they will. Every government in the world will do everything they can to stop deflation. How many times in the last 50 years has there been deflation???
You still have not answered the question, do you honestly not know the difference between nominal wage growth and real wage growth?
To answer your question, would I accept wage cuts if deflation occurs? I’d hardly vote for it. However, it wouldn’t be my choice, the government would simply cut our wages. As they did last time there was deflation because the economy would be in ribbons.
im glad you’ve nailed your colours to the mast here, you expect deflation. Simply not going to happen.
Looks like the "silly figure" inflation beating wished for increases are being beaten down to what I envisaged from way back.Are we talking about 5-7% now over 18-24 months.Of course that figure will look mighty when the inflation rate this time next year will be down around 3%! Not suitable but sustainable compared to the silly expected /wished for figures.
The Unions need to have a long hard talk about housing for the new young workers/graduates during their discussions.I'm talking here about the ,to borrow a phrase!,the people that get up early in the morning and go to work...other countries do this,provide housing for their workers.Unfortunately good old Ireland ,when providing housing,do it for the serial non workers who do not add anything to the economy other than their costs!
When prices start to fall and interest rates decrease,which they will, would you accept salaries being reduced inline with this? Its the same question as yours.
Yeah the unions operate in a democracy thankfully. Having said that Hopefully the lower wages get a slightly higher increase than the rest. Co is still a starter salary for most people tho. Or a smaller 2nd income in a household. I was on much lower than a Co salary only 6years ago even allowing for inflation.
The reason we'd never get a good deal is because the government knows your group makes up the majority and can pressure the unions into taking a worse deal because we won't strike regardless.
Those on a CO wage in Dublin are a dental bill or a car breakdown away from poverty.
I’m not poor. So poorer is a weird phrase to use. Will do anyway! Me and the other 90%! the dreamers on here can keep dreaming.
You’ve avoided answering this so many times, do you honestly not understand the difference between nominal wage growth and real wage growth?
For the record, I think 7% over 18 months would sail through. I would vote no.
a 7% "increase" over 18-24 months after 7% inflation over 1 year
I've had it refused based on home to meeting because I shouls have been calculated from work. Stupid as the difference was cents but maybe its department related.
Which makes sense. Fuel prices fluctuate. Probably not realistic to have flexible milege rates unfortuantely.
A 7% increase after 7% of inflation is a 0% increase.
This. You're supposed to pick work or home - whichever means the journey is shortest.
Subsistence Rates have just been increased from 14 December, but no change in mileage rates.
They pay your for the shortest point to point journey.
Whether thats your house or work base.
That's also not true for a variety of reasons including scheduling, they might ask you but so long as you can provide reasonable points as to why, then that's it. Too much to carry, timetable, to long of a walk and so on. I had someone ask me and I gave them the timetables, when I'd have to leave etc. And when I'd get back to work place (because they only pay you to go back to work not home for some stupid reason). What that has to do with this thread is lost on me though other than it should be increased and I'd be in favour of a bonus towards PT to encourage usage.
Sorry its a 7 percent increase mate. Not decrease.
You keep on voting for deals that make you poorer
I’d guess you’d be in the minority if it’s 7 over 18months.
Oh wow! As high as high as 7% over 18 months! We’re blessed…
I would reject that in a heartbeat
Ten percent over what time period?
Just saw my Tax Credit Cert for 2024 online - with the "budget measures" applied.
Anything less than 10%, and I will not vote to accept.
It's possible that FFG might be trying to buy votes before the next general election. By the early sounds it could be as high a 7 percent over the 18 months.
Any deal always needs to voted on.
If they are happy with a deal will it have to be voted in or is it a case of that's a good deal unions except it without a vote?
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2023/1218/1422537-pay-talks/ RTE appear to be saying there was 9 separate rounds of discussions in the past 3 weeks. Maybe it's more advanced than we think.
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://wd.vanillicon.com/v2/d38dadd4e9049f636f3a15f844846484.svg)
![Photo of [Deleted User]](https://wd.vanillicon.com/v2/dbd35c43580ff62b54e9919958f2a898.svg)
