How do people feel about this one? Will it be short and sweet?
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If you need to use the car they have to pay it. If not i wouldnt travel.
I doubt that would go down well. They will have to at least offer 8.5% imho
I'd reject it but that would sail through with 90% again I believe.
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/12/18/stepped-up-public-sector-pay-talks-could-see-deal-in-coming-days-say-unions/ positive news ishh
I feel like the unions are getting what they are looking for, or at least the are expecting to get what they want.
There is usually bickering about the offer being too low etc
Yeah that’s true. The line in that article saying pay hasn’t been discussed yet is inexplicable haha
I find the idea of a deal before Christmas kind of delusional seeing as they've only had 3 or 4 rounds of talks... I'm glad the unions seem serious about getting some sort of increase though.
That’s not how it works though. If I’m going from A to B and public transport goes between the two places then I am meant to use it. I can still use my car but don’t get mileage, just get the cost of bus ticket refunded to me.
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2023/1218/1422537-pay-talks/ RTE appear to be saying there was 9 separate rounds of discussions in the past 3 weeks. Maybe it's more advanced than we think.
If they are happy with a deal will it have to be voted in or is it a case of that's a good deal unions except it without a vote?
Any deal always needs to voted on.
It's possible that FFG might be trying to buy votes before the next general election. By the early sounds it could be as high a 7 percent over the 18 months.
Just saw my Tax Credit Cert for 2024 online - with the "budget measures" applied.
Anything less than 10%, and I will not vote to accept.
Ten percent over what time period?
Oh wow! As high as high as 7% over 18 months! We’re blessed…
I would reject that in a heartbeat
I’d guess you’d be in the minority if it’s 7 over 18months.
You keep on voting for deals that make you poorer
Sorry its a 7 percent increase mate. Not decrease.
That's also not true for a variety of reasons including scheduling, they might ask you but so long as you can provide reasonable points as to why, then that's it. Too much to carry, timetable, to long of a walk and so on. I had someone ask me and I gave them the timetables, when I'd have to leave etc. And when I'd get back to work place (because they only pay you to go back to work not home for some stupid reason). What that has to do with this thread is lost on me though other than it should be increased and I'd be in favour of a bonus towards PT to encourage usage.
They pay your for the shortest point to point journey.
Whether thats your house or work base.
Subsistence Rates have just been increased from 14 December, but no change in mileage rates.
This. You're supposed to pick work or home - whichever means the journey is shortest.
A 7% increase after 7% of inflation is a 0% increase.
Which makes sense. Fuel prices fluctuate. Probably not realistic to have flexible milege rates unfortuantely.
I've had it refused based on home to meeting because I shouls have been calculated from work. Stupid as the difference was cents but maybe its department related.
a 7% "increase" over 18-24 months after 7% inflation over 1 year
You’ve avoided answering this so many times, do you honestly not understand the difference between nominal wage growth and real wage growth?
For the record, I think 7% over 18 months would sail through. I would vote no.
I’m not poor. So poorer is a weird phrase to use. Will do anyway! Me and the other 90%! the dreamers on here can keep dreaming.
The reason we'd never get a good deal is because the government knows your group makes up the majority and can pressure the unions into taking a worse deal because we won't strike regardless.
Those on a CO wage in Dublin are a dental bill or a car breakdown away from poverty.
Yeah the unions operate in a democracy thankfully. Having said that Hopefully the lower wages get a slightly higher increase than the rest. Co is still a starter salary for most people tho. Or a smaller 2nd income in a household. I was on much lower than a Co salary only 6years ago even allowing for inflation.
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