Children stabbed in Dublin city centre **Read OP before posting**

Its a good question, maybe our minds are being polluted by social media. Italy, France and Sweden do seem to be having issues, no reason why it could not escalate here too.

Fair play to all involved in helping out yesterday after the stabbing incident, but I see someone has started a go fund me page so people can donate to buy a pint for Caio Benicio

I don't think this is a good idea in any shape or form. Will only cause more hateful remarks. Yes he was great and brave as were the other people who helped out but they have not been included in this go fund me

Maybe the money should be used for helping in the clean up, or help for the children in the school affected

There should be more discussion on immigration. It seems to be a no-go area for a lot of politicians and media outlets and avoiding it gives a voice to some really nasty people.

Personally I think we’ve benefited from people immigrating but we shouldn’t be allowing potentially dangerous individuals in. Helen McEntee said people are also expected to self deport after deportation orders are made which seems crazy.

We also need long term plans for the feral youths and how to get them to participate in a functioning society or else to get them off the streets.

I mean we just didn't have jobs here. There was a reason we had masses of people leaving the country. but yeah, for a country to become attractive it has to have high paying jobs and then the locals set those as their standards. This pattern can be seen around the world with migration. There are lazy people everywhere including Ireland.

You would need to show that the jobs would be there. A lot of MNCs with a big mix of Irish and foreign workers would not be able to replace solely from the local population, this will drive those Irish working for them further down the job market and you are competing with them instead. A lot of people buying things are from abroad so there would be less shops required and less people working in shops.

And housing would still be bursting. We would just have less built.

It isn't quantum physics but it does take a layer of thinking of the actual effects.

this all ties back to the Childrens act 2001 or whatever year it was

garda and judiciarys hands were tied and this is the result

its not the far right, its not the shinners, its not the immigants, its the government at fault

no one controls them

No we can’t expect this to happen.

We should never expect this to happen!

What happened last night has little or nothing to do with immigration.

We saw all this before with the Love Ulster riots in 2006.

It has to do with the fact that a great many individuals who live in Dublin 1 are completely economically deprived, due to decades of under-investment in the area in terms of housing, education, healthcare, and now you have parents and grandparents who were either victims or left to suffer the consequences of a truly massive heroin epidemic from the late 1970's onwards, which led to a huge HIV / AIDS crisis as well as the heroin epidemic itself and prior to that, the area was mainly slums with people being employed in manual work which fell away as society moved on, in part this helped to cause unemployment and then the heroin. Those who were lucky were rehoused outside of the city. The resulting vacuum of people leaving has also played its part.

Over decades this has set in, and is now embedded. You have multiple generations of people who are badly educated with no social networks or protection, not being made to stay in school because parents are either dead, in prison or stoned, people who grow up in the area can't get work because society has changed and they mostly totally unprepared for modern life and the work this sociopolitical grouping of people would traditionally have taken is now gone forever and nothing was done to address that.

The political system has failed these people but when people there and around the country either don't vote or vote for FF or FG or useless independents again and again and again, what do you expect?

Now the far right are manipulating these people who really have not the education or skills to know any better. The result is the chaos we saw in 2006 and last night.

Appalling not one custodial sentence

https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/1124/1418325-courts-dublin-charges/

Exactly one woman is in critical condition for trying to protect the children, this just stinks of vitue signaling. The money raised should go towards those in hospital, the victims.

City centres like Dublin & limerick city centre for the past number of years have young and not so young gurriers getting away with robbing , drug dealing , intimidating the law abiding without anything happening to them thanks to lack of gardai- soft on crime judges & politicans , inadequate prisons and free legal aid liars .

Rioting and looting shops is the next step in the final stages of lawlessness in our cities & towns

How are you defining "illegal" immigration?

People arriving here and seeking asylum are not illegal. They are refugees.

This is something that is being coined by British media and then shockingly used by British government and it should not creep over here.

Also how do objectors discern who's legal and in there eyes "illegal".

The person who carried out the attack yesterday was legal and an Irish citizen.

It was Irish people who of course live here legally who wrecked Dublin yesterday not immigrants.

I'd agree with this. I'm pro-immigration but there has to be some control. Some of the anecdotal stuff I've heard is frightening albeit I'm conscious it's anecdotal. Foreigners who contribute to society or who are looking for a better life should be welcome. Dangerous criminals or people whose identities we cannot verify should be turned away.

Masking faces in public has unfortunately been normalised in this country over the past three years and is something that should be discouraged.

Good post.