Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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I would imagine RTE announcing that they are going to make themselves 20% smaller is them accepting they need to be a smaller organisation. 20% is a lot.
I don't see why RTE has to focus solely on news and current affairs either. If anything it would be excellent to see RTE produce more Irish dramas etc, whether that be directly or by commissioning from outside.
RTE should be split up. A PSB RTE should be government funded. Let the "talent" find its own level in the commercial world with the commercial side of RTE spun out as a separate entity. As has been demonstrated by the demand for the formerly famous Tubridy, RTE's "talent" seems to be massively overpaid.
The leaking of the details tonight has really screwed up any attempt to handle this problem.
Regards...jmcc
The leaking of details tonight makes no difference whatsoever to the handling of this problem. What a bizarre notion.
Median household income in Ireland in 2022 were a little over €44k. Of the 1700 staff, 283 earned less than €40k.
The average wage was just over €60k.
Gravy train doesn't really refer to wages alone, it's wages in relation to effort. It's quite clear from RTEs output that they have been operating a high wage/low effort model for quite a while.
It doesn't really work like this. The mire that RTE is in right now is not a reflection on the general staff at RTE and their level of effort. They don't make the big decisions, they don't set direction.
Job cuts need to be handled properly with all those affected being in the loop. The partial leaking of details like this only causes chaos and upset for those who will be affected. The unions are already angry with how things have transpired and have issued statements and comments.
This is an attempt at a reorganisation of RTE and the people involved have only partial details that they, ironically, picked up from the media. This has caused a lot of problems. The details were meant to be presented to RTE staff tomorrow. Instead of an RTE audience wishing to find out what will happen, Bakhurst will be faced with an angry and worried audience that will be concerned about their jobs and the future of RTE. It really isn't that difficult to understand how badly this was managed. These are real people not bits and bytes. They deserve to be treated with some respect.
The most important question is does the cuts address the deficit fully. It's the only metric.
To me they look to be aiming at the low hanging fruit, sell a bit of land, let 400 go etc.. but cutting 2xm, pulse and the digital stations isn't going to save a whole pile, nor is getting rid of rte+1...is it?
And what is the plan for the current contractors....they seem to be where the money on 'talent' is being spent. Also how much contingency is needed to solve the issues around bogus self employment. They have said they have money out aside for this but haven't said how much.
It would be very interesting to know how much correspondents from the indo and Irish times etc are getting and why. They seem to be on about every topic, even when rte has their own correspondent for politics, finance, health etc. why do they need people from the indo and times when they have George lee and co?
There would want to be a lot more to this plan than what the indo have outlined, or it's just more of the same really.
RTE is not a commercial entity and has no remit to be profitable but it absolutely should be running to its budget and not making losses on its day to day operations. There also needs to be a recognition of what is an RTE Asset and what 'The Talent' brings to the table.
Keeping it on point with the **** Toyman, the 9.30PM Friday Time Slot on RTE1, The Late Late Show brand, the Studio, the Production Staff, etc... all brought to the table by RTE, the audience are wined and dined (well a few snacks I'm sure) by RTE. RTE needs to assign value to all of these things in the creation of a revenue generating show rather than attributing it to the bell end reading form the teleprompter.
I dont recall any qualms from RTE discussing redundancies in other companies, similarly ahead of official releases.
What goes around comes around.
Still no idea why RTE is not scrapping 2FM
By the way the redundancy program is noise, the people will walk out one door with a huge package, take 2 weeks holidays, and walk in the other door as a contractor which RTE will require because of a specific job they need....
How many of them work a 35 hour week for their salary?
Also don’t forget all the allowances they get, they’re probably not included in that figure.
Some of it is though - watch the 6.1 and rarely is there a full programme without some sort of **** up, like the wrong VT, failure to cut or coming back too soon. While management set direction, there clearly is inertia and an acceptance of below mediocre as the appropriate level of effort.
I have first hand experience of that some years back, RTE had the story before any of the staff
The 60k figure is very odd. A significant number are on over 100k so an average of 60k suggests a lot are on very low salaries which I find hard to believe. As I said already, are they full time 35 hour week figures?
Definitely not an Alanis Morrissette style ironic. But that's Journalism.
It's well known that the ratings for RTE2 are atrocious outside of the occasional sport coverage.
I would hazard a guess that RTE2 is loss making and isn't justified anymore.
Didn't rte try redundancy before and it went nowhere, hard to google it now as its all the current stuff
Was it established if these hundreds of contractors are included in the 1800 staff or on top, or are they fudging the numbers again
These hypocrites in rte keeping banging on about the housing crisis, at the same time, they support all measures to keep the status quo. Low density housing etc. Let them sell pf more of their land for housing... hopefully there are no badgers on site...
While I note your skepticism, I am absolutely sick of hearing about this far-right bogeyman that the great RTE is protecting us from. There is no national right wing media to speak of in this country. None. All (RTE included) sing from the same centre left hymn sheet.
If a couple of tiny online only one man band right wing outlets are a threat, well maybe we do need some mainstream diversity of thought. That's the only diversity that's not acceptable though.
In any case, I'm not saying RTE should go off air during a rapid reorganization, but that it should be given a bit of leeway if it's output is a bit chaotic during the transition. It should be able to cope because management feel that they can manage long term without those staff.
As I said, the real reason they want to take so long is to draw it out so that momentum gets lost and they can retain their bloated size.
What gravy train are the BCO's on? the Admins, the Schedule staff, the accounts payable staff, The programme acceptance viewers, The ISL and subtitle providers, the post room staff ,thee facilities guys. All leechers yeah. FFS this is peoples livelyhoods we're talking about. It's like sacking all HSE staff cause it can't be managed by the guys being paid to manage it!
DC pensions for staffsine 90's. FFS at least know what your talking about before shiteing on. Taking pleasure in ordinary workers loosing jobs go you. Cabbage
Holy **** that's one weird way of screwing things to suit your narrative.
Do you honestly feel that their is a huge difference between Strategy 2024 and this "New Direction".
I currently don't see it.
I'd be surprised if they don't ask for the CO to move to the NCH.
Show us those ratings? Top 20 or 30 programmes?
Almost 20 years on boards, more of a reader ( I've an average of 20 odd posts a year. mostly shite) This thread really saddens me (RTE Employee). Why do people have such strong convictions and espouse strong opinions on things they really have no clue about. Not all staff in RTE are on outlandish salaries. I understand there will be trolls and dopes but FFS sake we are talking about people with families and mortgages on average salaries that will pay the the price for deals they had as much knowledge of as the average man on the street. Are you really getting your jollies from this?
thats it, RTE is an organ of the government, thats how they put out all their propaganda, without RTE they wouldn't have been able to close down the country during covid. They need RTE to set the narrative
I think maybe you should ask yourself why people have such strong opinions on RTE, and perhaps a lack of sympathy for the self inflicted predicament it now finds itself in. Has there been any self reflection at RTE on where things have gone wrong?
The truth is RTE has represented poor value for money for a long time. It spun a threadbare yarn for years about how it needed to pay inflated salaries to retain "talent". It told us that "Truth matters" but would only give the public their version of the truth.
The main thing though is that RTE has alienated much of its audience. Trust in journalism has been weakening for some time but for RTEs output it has completely evaporated.
I wonder which government department did the leaking?
People are entitled to opinions on any organisation, especially when they are badly run. But ordinary staff who where unaware of "Talent "contracts (because that's what this is about really) and would have **** all say in them somehow they self inflicted this? Your asking these people to self reflect?
These are real people not bits and bytes. They deserve to be treated with some respect.
This sentence made me laugh anyway. Probably the most ironic sentence in this thread.
This thread is full of people calling for deep cuts to RTE, complaining that the announced cuts don't go far enough, suggesting all RTE employees are on a gravy train etc etc. The thread has become a general whinge-about-RTE thread.
To turn around now and feign concern for RTE staff and their futures because of how the cuts were announced is fairly contemptible.
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