Yes.
They'll claim those rockets went up beyond visual range, or went into space, or maybe even went close to the moon, but never that they landed on the moon.
As for the 400k employees, they'll claim that most wouldn't have known, would have been tied up designing whatever systems. And that only a core group knew of the secret plan.
Ah the old reliable of the supposed "deathbed confession/conversion", I think every famous atheist in history is reputed to have had one at this stage 🙄 if you want to misrepresent someone's views but you're a coward, just wait until they're dead and can't refute you
More people who are ‘in on it’
20,000 of them flying around at 17,500 mph without propulsion systems but no collisions ever. The 20k doesn't include "space thrash". Satellites do not exist as advertised. All communications are ground based.(huge towers) Same with the overwhelming majority of data transfers.(under sea cables)
A tiny bit of research destroys the whole satellite myth.
At any given time there are between 8,000 & 13,000 planes flying at the same time, in a much much smaller operating space than outer space… when is the last time 2 of them crashed into each other?
Do please share a tiny bit of research that proves satellites are fake.
These towers would have to be pretty tall to overcome the curvature of the earth, perhaps you could give us the gps coordinates of one so we can check it out?
Even if the earth were flat they’d still have to be pretty tall to overcome topography.
You do realise you can literally see them with your naked eye. The starlink satellites have been annoying astronomers for years, the ISS is very easy to observe if its not cloudy....
Iridium flares...
Is the moon a fake too? No propulsion system but it keeps on orbiting the earth, what's the deal there like?
Satellite TV. Point your dish at satellite, it works. Point it elsewhere, it doesn't. What's going on there?
Also why would millions of people be involved in a giant conspiracy for over 70 years to fake GPS, communications, TV, space launches, private commercial launches, satellite phones, everything?
So if there was just 20,000 people wandering aimlessly around an otherwise unpopulated island of Ireland, how long do you think it would take for you to bump into another person? Space is bigger, a lot bigger, and it's three dimensional.
All commercial communications systems use either cable or ground-based antenna/dish transmission. No magical floating satellites I'm afraid. Having said that, there are means of transmitting signal through battery powered, balloon mounted mechanisms, drones or manned craft but only in exceptional military related applications. You often see US antenna craft flying around the ukrainian border in Romania or in the black sea. These are likely aiding US surveillance in the region or potentially the ukrainian military themselves with much needed communications capability. Here's one flying around right now:
These would be typical models used:
Starlink satellite network is nothing more than fraudulent marketing for Musk's internet provider and his own ego. There are no satellites.
The very fact that he cut off the use of these "satellites" to ukrainians is proof that commercial internet does not use satellites but is ground based like all the others, starlink is no different.
Why would he cut off the use of the internet to Ukrainians? Because there are no satellites as we are told. All ground based.
You're back, any response to the below?
Is there some sort of convenient communications plane constantly flying nearby or how does it work?
OK. So all commercial communications systems ans their employees are involved in this conspiracy to pretend the world is a globe.
Previously you where claiming that it was just a small number of CIA guys doing it.
Kubrick directed it. Total hoax. Better than India's attempt though! Next.
How is the cutting off access to a commercial service which was being provided for free to a particular area proof that satellites don't exist? The service is still available elsewhere to paying customers.
The cutting of free access to Ukraine just shows Musk is a £&#@.
planes fly at 400 mph and can maneuver, change elevation etc. They are all controlled by people .
Satellites and space debris are at the will of gods(20k plus of them) moving at 17,500mph through space while also rotating with the earth at 1040mph. This while moving through the solar system at 666,000 mph. No collisions EVER
All these insane speeds and directions but these satellites can hold a location in space and record the earth.
I cannot prove a negative my friend. I'm not saying it's impossible, just i cant do it. The burden of proof is on you. It's difficult for me to prove something doesn't exist
Search Russian space agency footage. Its hilarious that anyone believed it as fact.
China space agency pretty ridiculous also
It's funny how it's pretty hard to tell what's a troll argument and what's a genuine argument.
Guess we're adding all of the people flying this invisible transmission planes to the small group of CIA operatives too.
Any evidence against the conspiracy can be dismissed as part of the conspiracy with no evidence or reasoning to support that accusation.
Even if you give a conspiracy theorist the evidence and proof they ask for, they will ignore it.
A lot of the flat earth stuff is very religious in origin. Mixed in with people wanting to be contrarian and edgy, but don't have the spine to go full holocaust denial.
There's plenty of grifters out there too who capitalize on this kind of stuff and abuses peoples willingness to believe obvious nonsense by recruiting them towards more dangerous obvious nonsense.
Moon landing conspiracies are a bit of fun and a useful tool to teach critical thinking skills to children. If you're an adult who still believes in them then I'm very embarrassed for you.
Okay, you are the second poster to make this bizarre point.
You do realise that is computer graphics representation on the right?
There isn't a camera-man on the moon pretending to film this..
I can't believe this has to be explained here, twice.
Ignorance (or disbelief) of something is not an argument against it.
They have no propulsion system. Literally out of control at impossible speeds.
I' not trying to convince anyone of anything. It's really really difficult to admit you've believed a bunch of nonsense most of your life and most are unwilling to even entertain these ideas.
Who said "It's easier to fool a population than convince them they've been fooled"
But a lot of satellites do have propulsion systems. This is easy to verify, but will no doubt be dismissed as part of the conspiracy.
Must be nice to have that kind of out and never have to be wrong about something.
What propulsion system does the moon have? , the moon is a satellite
On a clear night you can see the ISS for yourself. I've seen it. Here's a site you can use to calculate when and where it will be visible in the night sky
Can also see Starlink
Obvious (rereg) troll is obvious.
Amazing how convincing someone can be when they say it with confidence.
"Ignorance (or disbelief) of something is not an argument against it"
This has been the skeptics greatest tool for years
I've seen these concepts explained to you as someone would explain to a child. No one can help you get them but yourself.
You can look up to the sky and see certain man-made objects orbiting the earth yourself.
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