How do people feel about this one? Will it be short and sweet?
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It's 1.5% or €750 whichever is greater.
Grand so thanks.
Just going forward ameee, so salary goes up by 1.5% from october 1st
Hi , can I just ask if anyone knows is the october 1.5 percent raise is just going forward or will it be backdated like the last one where it came out to a 750 lump sum or something like that?
Which is still bullsh1t level.
Government is increasing tax take because of inflation. It's baked in, those prices are never coming down. The rate of increase will just, eventually, drop back to normal.
Every vendor is charging the government more for services. We are service providers but people seem to think that employers are doing them a favour for "giving" them money.
The past few years inflation, with increased tax receipts, has lessened the governments wage bill in percentage terms. It's a joke.
Well prepared to be insulted. 10% over two years would be accepted with zero issues.
10 % split over 2 years mathematically higher increase then 10% straight in one go.
Not directly but if you scan back this thread you will see people say 10% will do them split over 2 years.
That would be an insult and a massive "real terms" pay burden reduction on the government. We are not a national debt to be reduced by inflation. We need to be able to pay our bills and support our families
Woah woah woah , the job market is so tough out there lol
Maybe they should get a job then?
It was a lot more than one double payment at Christmas, Bren.
There are multiple extra cash payments being made alongside the christmas bonus this year, as was done last year as well, and if divided over 52 weeks adds up to a significant increase in addition to the €12 per week increase already being made to the base rate.
But I'm not going to belabour the point any further.
And of course the budget matters in the context of this thread.
Did the other European countries get 6.5% as well over the last two years? I don't actually know the answer but it's a fairly important point if they did not. This is our 2nd inflation deal , not sure if it's the same for the rest.
If you're responding to me, I didn't say over 2 years.
I want 10% yeah but not spread out over 2 years.
That is bullsh1t when you consider how high inflation has been running for the last 2 years, and into next
The ERSI report shows that the budget helped lower income workers more then others but this thread isn't about the budget.
I agree C&PS workers shouldn't accept crumbs, I want 10% in this round of talks. This is what is happening in other European Countries. Why should we accept any less? However, I am not going to begrudge those collecting social welfare. A double payment a Christmas makes sense for them in my opinion.
Maybe it comes across that way. But I'm going to be honest and say that after the last year or so, I am pissed off.
Not at those on social welfare. But at the Government.
The budget didn't exactly do very much for working people either, and from talking to people around me, I know I am not the only one who feels this way.
And this is why C&PS shouldn't settle for the crumbs off the table again this year. Because if you let yourself be passed over again and again, it will just keep happening.
I dont begrudge anyone on social welfare their Christmas bonus. Its an awful life on the dole.
12e increase on social welfare, bonuses, double weeks etc
Shush. 🤫
Don't you know we're not supposed to say anything about that?
I'd love a Christmas bonus. Never had one of those.
Let alone a double week for Christmas, a couple of cash bonuses in between, and an extra double week at the end of January to ease the annual Blue Monday.
I'd be better off quitting my job.
I'd be taking home 550 week minimum come January.
Yeah I was thinking it would take a good while for any increase alright. I'm thinking of getting a mortgage so at least the increase would be times 4 in lending power. Prob not going to make a huge difference otherwise though haha
Haven't heard a thing on the negotiations, but I'd expect them to take a few weeks.
Then it will have to be put to the union members for a vote.
But no matter what deal is made, it will definitely be months before you can expect any further pay increase - I'd estimate March at the earliest.
Anyone know how long it's going to take ? Are we looking at weeks or months do we know?
That’s alright for people who are happy to let others shoulder the burden of paying for the union. It wouldn’t sit well with me if I walked away from paying the fees.
I'm just about comfortable with what I earn. If I end up with an effective paycut, after this round, I'll go back.
I want to work where I do, it makes a difference, but I'm never going to struggle for it. My family is my priority
The higher performers will though
Here's an example of an alternative.
But they know people saying "I could go to the private sector" won't. At least the majority won't
Then the wage bill would increase.
We're paid less than private sector for that stability.
Want to have the negatives too then give the positives. I'd like my healthcare, bonuses, and 100% pay increase I could get in private sector so
Pay rise fixed against average industrial wage. Goes up as well as down.
Benchmarking was more than that, but i can't remember the exact percentages.
I'm sure its online somewhere.
But then again, it was taken away again about two years later.
(eta) looks like it was between 8.5% and 14% depending on grade.
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