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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    ya Dubs that got home form school for dinner in the middle of the day. Not only that they had 3 course dinners, soup, dinner and a desert. Francis Brennan's mother used to keep the Sunday roast chicken carcasse to make soup. There would be nothing left on the carcasse in our house except the bones and they would be licked clean.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,780 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭maninasia


    It's even really difficult for Irish people overseas to access RTE content, even when you would pay for it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,636 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I'm not sure. Looks more to me like signalling to the public that they're "taking all this really seriously." They know the bailout is coming and none of these measures will seriously impact their output...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,014 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Well maybe, but it could have been a much better programme without that shower, Kathleen Lynch ffs, Brennan, Ciara Kelly, short,Courtney and another few I've never heard of, Doorley with the big foodie all-knowing head on him, he'd eat himself if he got the chance by the sound of him , were they all gettin the cheque for their shytetalk I wonder



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,780 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    It's what Dee Forbes loved to 'provide' as entertainment- what's become known as 'weaponised nostalgia'. Cheap as chips programming, clips we've seen a hundred times over taken from the 'archives'.

    And a lot of those people probably don't get paid that much to give an opinion- we heard from comedians who were offered €200 to write, film and shoot a comedy sketch for 'No Worries if not', and that would take about 3 weeks to make per sketch. (Many rejected the offer, no matter how much 'exposure' it would get-youtube, tiktok and twitter provide the same exposure, without signing stuff away to RTE).

    Pat Short's 'Entertainment from D'Telly' and 'Music from D'Telly' were two similar shows that raided the vaults, Reeling in the Years 2010s was hyped up as the Irish Game of Thrones the way they were promo'ing it. I didn't watch it, and I've watched em all up to that point.

    And we have 'Marty's picture show', where Marty Morrissey goes through the archives of old photos... more 'nostalgia'. Nationwide are doing the same too, while they were on Summer break, they raided the archives again.

    It's all same old, same old. Lazy, lazy, cheap programming- because the money was being pee'd away on the 'talent'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Flicked over to RTE1 yesterday before the SixOne news and they are showing “The Great British Sewing Bee” first aired in 2020…..

    They fcuking deserve to go to the wall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,780 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Any old crap to fill the hole. RTE2 often has two or three wildlife or cookery programmes in a row.

    Don't think they even care about their programming schedule. Just keep the lights on and the ads running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Welcome to Boards.ie.

    Yes, you are right TV drama is expensive to produced.

    RTÉ at one point, in fairness to them, did produced and commission smaller budget dramas. I am not, and I don't think anyone one else, is expecting RTÉ to produce just 1 hour of TV drama for €1.2m, that would just be madness. Maybe a small 4 to 6 part comedy/drama for around 200k-250k per episode. Or maybe just supporting a small feature film.

    Or even just a proper budget for TV drama, in 2022 according to their IPU/Independent Commissions annual report RTÉ spend just €2.489m on "Great Local Drama"... That included Kin and 3 half hour episodes of Storyland (a project supported by Screen Ireland).

    But you are right to say that a programme like Normal People cost about €1.2m to produce, it was produced by Hulu (Disney) and BBC Studios. Below the cost of an episode of Normal People actually rose to €3m.

    Dee Frobes (The Former DG of RTÉ): Just to give the Deputy an idea on the cost of something like "Normal People", it cost €3 million per episode to make. It is a huge investment. We could never have afforded that. Therefore, the deal that we did was a different deal, where we got to be the Irish broadcaster. We put some money in but we could never afford that. Hence, the approach we have taken with drama now is to try to increase the amount of drama we are getting, but we are a minority funder. We are bringing in third-party funding all the time. For example, "Hidden Assets", which was recently on, was a co-production between a number of parties, from Belgium, France and here. "Smother", which is on air at the moment, has got money from the BBC, Screen Ireland and the western region audiovisual producers, WRAP, fund.

    https://about.rte.ie/commissioning/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/06/RTE-Independent-Productions-Annual-Report-2022-2.pdf


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They are unwilling to release Dee Forbes contract, but I would have thought that she was largely appointed by the board who are in turn appointed by the Minister/Department. You'd think that the Department would have an over view of that contract.

    The also won't provided details of Breda O'Keeffe's exit package, I assume this will be know once work is completed on the investigation into those exit packages/redundancies is completely.

    Someone on twitter was saying how he'd email Dee Forbes about Right wing extremists in Sweden and their rise, and how he didn't get a reply... I was going to reply with "You honestly still believe she was running RTÉ in some shape or form following the scandals about her time as DG."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    @TedBundysDriver All is saved because on Monday after a 4 month holiday Today with Daithi and Maura is back on our screens!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,780 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    With all of their 1800 employees they still can't maintain output during the holidays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yeah they've never really been able to, I wonder why.

    I called Today offices, I thought I wonder what they are up to, the week before it begins. They are working from home, so no rehearsals needed for the big day on Monday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Dee should be forced to face PAC and RTE release details of their contracts and exit deals



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Tuesday evening 7pm RTÉ2 - Hotel Chocolat: Unwrapped. Originally broadcast in October 2020…

    So almost 3 years ago, and I’ve randomly seen these shows on about 4-5 times being shown on RTÉ…….

    The alternative on RTÉ 1 at the same time? Nationwide & Eastenders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly



    They largely gave up on RTÉ2 in 2014. It never really returned to what it had being doing.

    At least you might have had

    7 - 9 History | Nature Docs

    9 - 11 New imports | Irish Programming

    11 News

    Largely RTÉ gave up on this schedule, and suggested this is because people have moved on line, but in reality new Drama on RTÉ2 had moved to RTÉOne back in 2008, and RTÉ vastly reduced their support for Drama on both channels (more recently opting for Co-pros). While the other type of programming that has been moved online comes nowhere close to what RTÉ2/Network 2 had being doing. (An awful lot of short form series, 6 ads on the player for a badly produced 6minute programme, who's watching?)

    RTÉ2's audience has gone from 10% without sport to 4% without sport. Then the have the audacity to talk about special events like Olympics, RWC and World cup in their annual reports, the things holding RTÉ2 together... and lets not forget their Strategy 2024 had sport move over to RTÉ ONE!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    It's not just O'Keefe that got an exit package, Coveney did too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Why should he get an exit package, was he fired from his position? Did he get severance? If he resigned would he have any entitlements? He'd still have his pension.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    All I know is Coveney got a pay off. I don't know much more than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,535 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yeah, that is what I am hearing too. I assume this means he was fired and got severance. Also hearing O'Leary was given something. These are not resignations.

    This would have been my press release : -

    Ms. O'Leary and Mr. Coveney have been retained as staff purely because we'd have to pay them severance and we are unwilling to do that.


    Ms. O'Leary will take on the interim role of Senior Executive for the Distribution of Beachwear in the Wardrobe Department, until her retirement. We wish her well in her retirement.


    Mr Coveney is now Senior Executive for the Protection of noncritical Intellectual Property and Assets. His office is close to the storage area for set for the Toy Show the Musical, his role will be to make sure no one ever uses it or sees it again. We wish him the best in his new role, there is always a door open to him, we wish him well on finding the door and closing it on the way out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    I am attending an event later today and part of the show will be about RTE, so anyone attending can expect more revelations about this and more.

    The event I mention is




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Would it be worth it? I was up in Dublin on Tuesday.

    I listen to their RTÉ podcast and to me it was the same old same old.

    I am grateful that Sit down and be counted was published to Amazon but its not the be all and end all. I felt is was 3 RTÉ producers complaining about their own mistreatment from Politics, management and from the public.

    The on the one hand bemoan the commercial side of RTÉ and then state we are too small to find good people to go on the TV.

    In the podcast they basically give RTÉ an excuse for their mismanagement of the company and that excuse is the wining and dining of advertisers and the commercial arm of RTÉ along with the lack of funding coming from the license fee.

    IMO both of these things are just signs of how RTÉ are unable to run an organization rather than a cause of the problems that the face.

    Geraldine O'Leary basically stated that if she had not done what she did RTÉ would not have to the sponsorship that they receive, while Dee Forbes continually said the license fee was broken.

    This is just people agreeing with the incompentance at RTÉ.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    It’s going to be well worth it. One of the guys behind tortoise shack is the guy who broke the RTE and bogus payments. This is going to cost RTE a lot of money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Do you have a link with any of the speakers? and topics to be discussed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Two of the speakers are well known ex RTE employees but no names mentioned. Aoife Grace Moore and also Emmet Kirwan are speaking. That’s all I know bar what the link I sent you said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Dee Frobes and Breada O'Keffee 😂

    I am not convinced about going.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    That’s fine. I can fill you in later with a brief synopsis of what happened.



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