Ramaswamy compared support for Ukraine to the ill-fated U.S. military interventions in Iraq and Vietnam.
What kind of an idiot uses this as an example. It's very very clearly Russia who are in the US role in those wars. If anything it's a reason to support Ukraine.
Some chance of Trump ending the war. This is the guy who first of all paid a porn star for her services and then had to pay her again in damages, a complete fool that guy is!
Might be just candles for Papa -
While I'm sure it's not true, I'd love to think that "Bring flowers and candles with you" is Wagner code for "come armed to the teeth, **** gonna kick off!"
It speaks to how loopy the American Right has become that it finds itself chumming up to Russia out of a sense of kinship, giving both have such aggressively illiberal, "Christianity" focused perspectives.
But given Ramaswamy is also big into just doubling down on fossil fuels like he's a Captain Planet villain, he's obviosuly a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
Irrelevant what Pence says, Trump will be the nominee and we know he's a fan of Vlad and says he'll end the war in one day
If I had to guess, I'd say Wagner will just continue to become more and more under control of the Russian government. If they decide to go the other way, they don't really have a lot of options for retaliation. A potential main source of potential independent funding in the billionaire Prigozhin is now dead. They'd have to tramp back from Africa. They're mercenaries more than ideologues.
Seeing talks of Wagner trying to organise march 2.0 online. God I'd love one that hit Moscow.
However the ever more realistic headline appeared this morning too:
https://newsrnd.com/news/2023-08-23--quite-deplorable---wagner-employees-allegedly-loot-prigozhin-s-headquarters.B1kdc-Ea2.html
'Quite deplorable': Wagner employees allegedly loot Prigozhin's headquarters
So while some are talking about avenging their fallen leader, the rest are in like rats to clean the place out.
He will know soon enough. Wagner will have a new leader that toes the line. If some of the top people in the organisation were still around it might be different, the foot soliders won't rise up.
I dunno, I think there's a strong bang of " his clothes were found in a neat pile on the beach" off this.
The inner circle of Russian leadership and supportive oligarchs will be looking around nervously for the next while.
Ergdogan performing political gymnastics again stating "Crimea is Ukraine" and calling on the release of Crimean Tatar leaders. This was yesterday.
Also interestingly, boats (don't think there were any landing craft) were stationed just off the Crimea coast yesterday and shot at a Russian SU-30. There's speculation that they may also have been the source of explosion at the S400 air defence system yesterday too using an anti-ship missile.
The clashes and reported landing on the peninsula look to be around the same area as the boats were operating though. Nearest village is Mayak.
Yeah, it makes perfect sense that he’s swanning around Africa going completely unnoticed.
My interptetaion at the time was it was a march to overthrow Putin, yes he ranted against Shoigu, but getting so close , I'm surprised he didnt try go all the way , given most people expected yesterdays outcome if it was thwarted or halted with a pact . Perhaps he fealt they would not get closer before carnage, but it was strange to stop when he did, like miuch in this we will probalby never know for sure.
Only 27 bombers they say? I wonder how many of those 27 are even fit to fly?
And this is Ukrainian Intelligence saying it too, which suggests they know where they are. I wonder if that sneaky AFU drone team have a couple more missions in them? Mightn't take much to cripple the Russian's bomber capabilities.
Interesting
I'll believe he's dead when theres a positive ID from the wreckage. Remember when they raided his house they found loads of disguises he could use. Wouldn't put it past him to stage this so he could disappear to Africa.
I think not only China but all Bric and most African countries have about as much respect for law and order as Putin does i.e. the only law is the law of the jungle and all orders come from the man (always a man) at the top.
The speeches are just an elaborate in-joke
been away on a mission that they said was impossible...well...seems it wasnt so impossible and international headlines were made 😁
on a serious note...what happens now? are there enough of a leadership left in the wagner group to do anything?or do they just pack up in Africa and head home?
It will be interesting to see if the other leaders of the BRICS will make a comment on the fiery demise of Prigozhin. No doubt Xi Jinping will think, well played my dear friend, but Putin, who had spoken some hours before on the need for safeguarding international law and and order, has made the summit look rather ridiculous.
This?
Edit: ah, snap
Yes thank you, that's the one!!
Was it this meme? (Obviously not a real interview, but hilarious nonetheless)
You'd imagine Wagner are done in it's current guise and there will be no regrouping and vengeance for their fallen leader if he is in fact dead and we aren't in for a huge plot twist.
They are mercs they will be loyal to whoever pays them the most.
That said Lukashenko should not telegraph his movements for the next while.
I'm trying to find a video that was posted after the attempted coup by Prigozhin, it was an interview with a guy who was hilarious and saying Prigozhin will be dead by August. This thread is so huge and I've no idea who posted it, can any one resurface it. It was brilliant.
Oh you soooooo funny.
Another Icarus that flew too close to the sun.
S300 blasts murdering SOBs out of the sky second Embraer returned all arrested
Putin gave the order, strength by any means is respected in Russia.
Great example for what's part of BRICS ideology.
World no safer while Russia, previously contained exists they armed NK ffs
According to Prigozhin himself, the whole escapade was aimed at Shoigu and Gerazimov, who he claimed were refusing to supply him with the arms he needed to take Bakhmut, and the cause of many of his men getting killed, and as such was not aimed at or meant to overthrow Putin. However, Putin didn't interpret it that way, and promptly hightailed it out of the Kremlin ( same as most of the top brass.) when Prigozhin's armed convoy came within 70 miles of Moscow. So as we now know, a deal of one kind or another was hammered out between Putin and Prigozhin, which led Prigozhin into a false sense of security. Putin bided his time, neutralizing the Wagner group, and killing Prigozhin. The burning question now though is, has the Wagner group (and others) been neutralized enough....
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