Either the Americans are pumping the brakes on aid or they're supplying a typical aid package? Which is it? These are your words.
I'm not even reading the rest of that dribbly sh*té.
How exactly are they pumping the brakes on the counter-offensive? Because what you describe there is not a brake, its more of the same
$1.3b is not an absolutely whopping package.
To attack you need 3x that of the enemy. There's no evidence that Ukraine are getting the step change in firepower required. So yes, America are pumping the brakes on the counter offensive. The lack of movement of the front lines and the statements from the Ukrainians themselves is evidence of this.
Your claim that Ukraine are getting a metric shitton of cluster munitions has no evidence.
They'll move a lot by train internally, but they have a different rail gauge to Romania...
Indeed. They move the grain from all over Ukraine to the hub, which is Odessa. Pure speculation, but perhaps they have to consider the painful option of moving that hub further south into Romania, but I don't know if there's a rail-link.
Sure, but one vessel is the equivalent of a couple thousand trucks. While I'm sure they will move what they can out of Romanian ports, the capacity to replace the vessel shipments with overland transport just isn't there.
To me it pretty much looks like every month something new is announced, a new step change as you call it.
I am wondering if they can get it from Odessa to a port in Romania, then Romania and Bulgaria could use their territorial waters to get the ships in and out.
You posts really are the most negative and inconsistent I've read on boards in a while. You're even openly contradicting yourself at this stage. Some awesome goalpost moving here.
"America really pumping the brakes on aid"
How about this absolutely enormous 1.3billion aid package the other day?
Proves my point. That's just a typical aid package without extra capability
Yeah sorry you can't have both of those. Either they're pumping the brakes on aid or they're still making their typical, absolutely whopping regular aid packages, which is it?
Putting aside that their previous aid package not but a short while ago opened up the flow of a metric shitton of cluster munitions(an extra capability they haven't provided before and Ukraine have been begging for them and hailed them as potentially game changing).
The capacity isn't there to do it overland. They have already massively increased their overland exports but it will be close to impossible to increase it anymore.
This is crazy.
https://fortune.com/2023/07/18/russia-ukraine-oil-imports-american-firms-slb-baker-hughes-halliburton/
That just proves my point.
The size of that package is about typical for what we've seen in the last year.
There is no evidence that Ukraine have been provided a step change in firepower above what they currently have.
True but they're not storming government buildings like in America.
One third makes for a very unhappy society. Staggering.
I imagine Trump could find a way to tear up any existing agreements. From his ridiculous "I'll end this war in one day" comments recently it's clear he has no interest in taking it seriously and an Economist podcast recently pointed out that the majority of America First think tanks and lobbyists think America should not be involved in the conflict and instead focus on China. The point was clear: if Trump wins, Ukraine should be very prepared for a dramatic shift in policy
Bombing The grain silos/grain loading/processing facilities and any collateral damage around same is another tool in Putins box to put pressure on the poorer nations of the world. This will the. ULTIMATELY LEAD to food shortages , famine , etc. Which I turn will lead to more migration/ refugees to Europe thereby putting pressure on Ruropean/Western nations security , political , economic and service provision perspective - THEREBY WEAKENING the West in every way compared to Russia
So, most Americans hate it’s government!!!!!!!? It must be an awful setup over there . O wait ……. Going by recent poles in Ireland circa 50% of the Irish people would not give their first preferences to the current government because they hate/are against it. Likewise in lots of other countries
I would imagine that a large part of their reasoning is that they don't want to inflict a massive and obvious defeat on Putin that might prompt him to cross a line, and instead slowly wear down Russia until it's left with no choice but to withdraw, technically of its own will. That, or regime change due to growing internal unrest.
Whatever you want to spin it, right now Ukraine may not on the verge of victory or even close, but Russia is in the exact same boat, although I would say sinking far more rapidly all factors considered.
Russia being humiliated on the battlefield and actually ejected from Ukraine is something everyone would love to see but who knows what that egotistical madman would do, or at least, attempt to do if such a thing actually happened.
It looked like the village of Klischiivka was going to fall to Ukraine about two weeks ago. The Russians reinforced the area since then.
To provide perspective, Ukraine have been trying to liberate this one single village for 2.5 months now.
America seems to have more of an interest in preventing Ukraine from being defeated, to actually enabling Ukraine to win.
When Ukraine was close to collapse in March 2022, America rushed military aid in.
Here we are in July 2023 with a situation that is much more delicately poised and America are pumping the brakes on aid.
5 EU states looking to extend the ban on imports of Ukrainian grains and agriculture products ,the EU can't expect to allow the flooding of grains and agriculture products from outside the EU even if it is only Ukraine,it would open the doors to other non EU products haven't to be allowed despite agreements in place to prevent things like this happening
I would have thought it would be simple enough to move from the Odessa to Romania and Moldova , Bulgaria and down to Turkish waters and out to the bosphorus straight,
I get the feeling other countries are afraid their shipping being effected or Russia blockading or mining their ports ,
There needs to be a firm response to Russian threats, let's see if they are willing to play the biggest game of Battleship not seen since WW2
I read somewhere the option is there of using canal barges by Danube -Rhine North Sea. Romania said they can use the canal I believe. May also be option of going by road from Danube to Adriatic.
Joking aside, I would have thought that in the event of trying to move grain by land, it would be a case of ferrying it southward to a port in Romania where it would be shipped toward the Bosphorus within NATO territorial waters. I'm sure there are aspects to this which hinder the idea from somewhere between highly impractical to almost impossible, but is there any alternative to even discuss, never mind implement?
10,000 are already in Belarus, so much for only 2 convoys only recently arrived
Hmmmm coming soon the fall of Lukashenko or another front, another source has claimed that they are planning to move to Africa again
The issue there is the grain needs to head to Africa and the middle east not Europe other wise we affect Europen production and economies , which in turn causes governments to rethink their involvement in the process
So, Wagner lost 1/3rd of its fighting force in Bakhmut?
Good enough for them. Pity it wasn't more.
Reading more into this.
You can't help but get the feeling the unconfirmed reports of 100k soldiers ready to take Karkiv. Was. All over a stupid ammonium pipeline that was damaged in Karkiv.
All I can say is.. Ha. Ha. Ha. Russian government. Russian people. Russian fools who'd be led to fight for a mafia boss over fertiliser sales.
we'll never know
A little levity...
I've done some calculations.
Ukraine could produce around 51 million metric tonnes of grain.
The average car boot holds between 280-300 litres.
Taking an average density of the grain, I estimate that we only need around 220 million round trips to get the grain thing sorted by land.
Maybe adding a few lorries into the mix would speed things up...
If true, extraordinary figures. And ratios look at the killed v wounded.
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