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  • Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's a big difference between a small software company 'cutting loose' a division. Versus Carlsberg cutting loose the largest brewery in Russia with 9 production sites. They make 50-60 million hectoliters per year.

    Who do you suggest they 'cut loose' the Russian business to ? A rival company? The Russian government ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Looks like RU is preparing a massive counter attack in Lyman - Kupyansk:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Well , carlsbergs russian assets are likely to get "nationalised"anyway, and then farmed off to some government crony -

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    Saw that, not so sure about it though, it’s two days old that news and it has been retweeted all over from one source.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,006 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Surely a concentrated group would warrant a few storm shadows being launched?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    Not really. The public company's managements job is to maximise shareholder value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,402 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The Ukranians appear to be saying themselves that a major Russian offensive has begun but there's little to go on yet.

    You'd have to presume there is some truth to it. If the numbers of personell and weaponry being cited is remotely true, and I'd be sceptical it would be that extreme, then it's a very serious development in the war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    There's been talk of a potential Russian offensive for a while,even some random bloke Sean bell was talking about for a a week or two on sky News



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    There was always going to be a Russian offensive: there simply was no way they'd play rearguard this long without having some Hail Mary attempt to restart any degree of momentum; the question is more if Ukraine are ready themselves, and what their defensive positions are like.

    Is this going to be Russia Battle of the Bulge moment, the last attempt to fashion a victory, a bloody nose to the enemy, using the remaining high quality equipment Moscow can call upon?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Polar101



    The Russian Late Late show host is not happy about the bridge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    So what are they doing with this "50-60 million hectoliters per year" production. You're after telling us above that "They stopped selling Carlsberg in Russia, they stopped exporting from Russia, they stopped advertising in Russia"

    So where's all this Carlsberg produced booze going?

    Perhaps it's vodka they've been making and flogging it in Russia? Making profits? While Ukrainians burn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,202 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Not saying Russia won't be able to launch a counterattack, but the 100k numbers don't sound very realistic - has anyone seen a picture of even a single large concentration of Russian troops?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Unhappy deluded bunny but judging by expressions on the pundits, a bit like Djokovic yesterday when he started to realise that the game was up. He smashed his racket off the post in frustration, but tennis rackets don't blow up in your face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Important to stress that this offensive if it is in fact true and not simply reserve movement: Will face the same issues that Ukraine has faced in the south except much much worse. The lines in this area haven't moved in 9 months. Ukraine has had all that time to build lines and mine the f**k out of the area. Russia have no air superiority. Ukraine now has or will begin to receive hundreds of thousands of cluster munitions. Russia does not have the same ability to target and disrupt Ukranian supplies since the east of the country is not supplied by a thin landbridge and a couple of rail lines.

    On top of this where is the ammunition for all these systems going to come from? The only real gains Russia has been able to make in this entire fiasco has been when their artillery advantage at any given point has been at 10:1, their entire strategy revolves around it. Himars brought that to an end. So unless they somehow pull a few millions shells out of their ass(I guess we don't really know how much they have) I don't see how they'd even manage to take Lyman.

    If I was to guess this is a strategy to distract the current Ukr counter offensive and bait their reserves away from the south and draw the war out longer. Maybe it'll work. Who knows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭zv2


    Your man on Sky News said they are gathering troops there for an attack so there may be some truth in it.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @Virgil° Ukraine now has or will begin to receive hundreds of thousands of cluster munitions. .

    Hundreds of thousands of cluster munitions?, not so sure about that ,yes they have received clause munitions recently but hundreds of thousands of them ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭zv2


    Storm Shadow is more of a precision weapon than an area weapon. Clusters would do if their stuff is packed closely enough.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,571 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    Gotta echo another poster and say whatever the validity of SOMETHING happening, 100k soldiers sounds incredibly unlikely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    You have to think we were told Russian lost upwards of 70,000 men in bakmut alone yet none of us actually seen any large concentration of Russian troops,seen plenty of videos showing between 10 -20 Russians getting hit with artillery out in the open but we never saw thousands and definitely not tens of thousands of Russians in bakmut



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,790 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Something needs to be done before these guys get moving or it could be why some we have not seen some of the Ukranianian divisions yet.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭zv2


    If they're coming the Ukrainians have known it for some time.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,790 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I'd say it's been photographed and analysed by every NATO satellite and multiple strategies pondered.

    I genuinely wonder if the Russian Army has the Will to actually go on a major offensive.

    Ah well, those Tungsten warheads would be put to proper use.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭wassie


    From wikipedia - Lyman is an important railway junction, carrying up to 30% of cargo on the Donetsk railway system.

    Probably always going to appear to be an active area if there is any scaling up of troops & equipment given Ruzzias reliance on rail.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    We had over 4,000 employees in over a dozen countries a couple of years ago, I don't know if I'd say we're a 'small' software company (There are still nearly 2,000 of us), and in terms of relevance, we shut down our largest offices and left our largest markets. If we can do that, IMO Carlsberg can afford to lose Russia. I didn't say it would be painless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    I guess we’ll see, how tricky would it be for them to go through their own minefields?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I guess we'll find out Very soon how many missile's Russia has stockpiled when Putin gets his revenge in the next few days.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭zv2


    He does not mention the Ukrainian children he murdered


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,390 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    What Ukraine may have possible used against the bridge.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    There's been several suggestions from naval to aerial drones and missiles , even suggestions it was a false flag to use an excuse to can the grain Deal

    Be interesting to see which is the real weapon ,



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