It's bad form from the UK to be complaining a few days before Biden goes there.
Because ruzzophobia 😂 If you look at the ruzzian shill social media accounts like PANAIreland, they're in the heebie jeebies about cluster munitions for NATO and Ukraine, but a big fat ZERO posts about ruzzian use of cluster bombs indiscriminately in urban areas like Kharkiv. There is also an attempt to portray a split in NATO over US delivery of cluster munitions, saying Germany, UK, Spain, Canada object to it. They're token objections only as those nations have banned cluster munitions.
A lot of the meeja is useless to worse than.
The media freakout re ukriaine getting cluster munitions would leave you thinking the Russians still have a serious sway over western media, Russia is using them since day one, what exactly is the issue with ukraine getting them ffs
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Not that it's lagging it's just the yanks keep thier satellites to themselves
Surprised to hear that.
The rhetoric has been for some time that Russian technology is lagging decades behind the US
More like the yanks.
Most GPS is ran off russian satellites.
Thunk the yanks have been messing with them for a while
Had to re program the autosteer on the tractor this morning- seemingly putin destroyed a satellite
Russia had a large navy, Ukraine had none.
Russia had significant stockpiles of cruise and long-range missiles, Ukraine had virtually none.
Russia had one of the world's largest air-forces, Ukraine had a small air-force
Russia had almost 5 to every 1 of Ukraine's tanks. Plus many times more artillery and MLRS systems.
Ukraine's professional active army was around 200k to 250k. Also keep in mind Ukraine is a relatively poor country, it could not afford to keep the hundreds of thousands of additional reservists out of work and indefinitely employed in guarding the border.
Not that it would have done any good. The Russians had over 2,500km of land/sea to attack from, they had the entire border of Belarus to attack from, they had their air-force to form airbridges.
We now know the Ukrainians knew they couldn't hold the Russians at their borders, that their plan was to let Russia penetrate, then attack their over-extended supply lines. And it worked. The Ukrainians held one of the largest militaries in the world, and then caused it to retreat from thousands of square km of it's territory.
"They basically did nothing at all"
Except plan for years and execute one of the greatest military turn-arounds in history.
They had well over half a million active soldiers plus double that in reserves before the war started. In 11 months there was plenty that they could have done. They basically did nothing at all. No deterrent at all
I have to agree 👍
We're quite an odd bunch ted 🤔 😁😁😁......as you were.
Hundreds of KM, with the entire country's war-time mobilised manpower and resources (plus billions in foreign supplies) defending it
I see the point you are trying to make, but the above wouldn't have been possible pre-invasion for obvious reasons.
How long is the front line now and how are Ukraine keeping the Russians back on their side
Russians came through on roads from four axes across a border of 1000's of kms, roads which couldn't be mined for obvious reasons.
Wasn't much the Ukrainians could have done to stop them at the border, which is why they planned and executed attacks on the Russian columns and supply lines when they penetrated inside Ukraine.
1000's of square kilometres last year. This year, in the last weeks, around 250+ square km, plus recently some territory held by Russia since 2014
F16's would mean that the Russians have to change tactics, dramatically, in the air, and on the ground. It will also allow the Ukrainians to use air cover, to launch more JDAMs and perform more sortie's.
They can be readily shot down by russian air defence.
You mean the air defence which has barely touched the Ukrainian air force that is operating every day? "Readily" is not a word I would use.
I think every farmer secretly dreams of towing away a T-72 with his tractor.
Still seems like an odd plaice to me.
We put it here so the Russians wouldn’t find it. Top secret stuff discussed here.
Farmers and fishermens unique view on the Russian war in Ukraine 🇺🇦
Fish-farming?
Why is this thread in the Farming and Forestry folder? Or is my laptop having a meltdown?
Should be good against trenches, hopefully they get plenty of them
That will be a huge help for them
US has finally agreed to send Ukraine artillery delivered cluster munitions
Ukraine 🇺🇦 has reclaimed more sq km's of it's territory than ruzzia took in the past 12 months. I would say for a nation at war with a thing multiple times its size in so many metrics - save brain power- and without anything resembling air parity or superiority they are doing remarkably well. ruzzia has not the manpower nor equipment to offer anything more than local counter attacks. Not all nations fight like the vatniks, unthinking immoral barbarians that they are.
What have they reclaimed? A strip of no man's land or something of strategic importance?
What are f16s realistically going to do though? Aside from replacing the old Soviet planes that Ukraine are running out of and increasingly struggling to maintain.
They can be readily shot down by russian air defence. So face the same limitations they currently have. They aren't going to be capable of making a big impact.
Which ultimately leaves Ukraine in pretty much the same position as now until one side runs out of weapons
They’ve admitted that they f’d up by not blowing up bridges and mining the route from Crimea.
In the 11 months that Russia were building numbers close to the border before the war started what did Ukraine do to defend themselves.
Russia has built massive defensive lines to cling onto what it could indicating it didn't have much faith in it's offensive power. Ukraine is currently having to go through those defences. It's slow progress, that said, Ukr has made more progress in several weeks than Russia did in 7 months.
Air power is critical for any offensive, the US bombed Iraq day/night for a month before their offensive. F16's would significantly help Ukraine's offensive.
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