April 2022 deal? 2 months after Russia's full scale invasion? What deal would that be then?
@circadian don't feed the trolls.
The attempt to deflect from Russia's crimes by referencing Northern Ireland is a classic Kremlin tactic and the notion that Ukraine's western allies blocked a "deal" in April 2022 is pure fantasy disinfo / conspiracy theorist nonsense.
The only point of interest in grumpy's post is referencing Ukraine and it's supporters as "the allies"... it seems even Putinbots have accepted that this time around, Russia are the nazis! 😉
NY Times have a not very flattering report on the group who did the border attack
Some analysts dismissed the significance of the R.D.K. as a fighting force even as they warn of the dangers they pose. Michael Colborne, a researcher at Bellingcat who reports on the international far right, said he was hesitant even to call the Russian Volunteer Corps a military unit.
“They are largely a far-right group of neo-Nazi exiles who are undertaking these incursions into Russian-held territory who seem far more concerned about making social media content than anything else,” Mr. Colborne said.
Mr. Colborne said the images of Mr. Kapustin and his fighters could damage Ukraine’s defense by making allies wary they could be supporting far-right armed groups.
“I worry that something like this could backfire on Ukraine because these are not ambiguous people,” he said. “These are not unknown people, and they are not helping Ukraine in any practical sense.”
You posted a link to a blog which you claimed was "an amalgamation of war news". The blog you referred to is a shameless pro-russian propaganda vessel, with articles full of lies, ridiculous consparicy theories, racist hatred of Ukrainians and deliberate misrepresentations of western media reports. I (reluctantly) post your link again so that people can make up their own minds.
When you're challenged about its contents, you post in response a link to an academic study confirming that bots are successfully spreading misinformation about the war. Perhaps you're the only person reading this who doesn't appreciate the irony of your own post?
to fully address your statement would take too long and I suspect you wouldn't listen anyways
You realise that on a discussion forum that kind of response doesn't wash? There's also an unpleasant arrogance about it; it infers that you believe your views are too complex and insightful for others to understand. I find regular posters on this thread are generally well informed, regardless of their views on the war, and will see through bullshit like this no matter where it emanates from.
I suppose Bellingcat and the New York times will now be accused of parroting Kremlin talking points? Ukraine needs to ditch these dirtbags and quickly.
Interesting detail here. I have timestamped the relevant section
Can anyone tell me why those planes would fly for several hours in order that they fire their cruise missiles over the Caspian Sea? Is it so that if they fail and fall to ground they will only end up in the sea or is it maybe something to do with the flight path from that position?
The problem really is that it's not balanced. We have the middle ground opinion supporting Ukraine, and we've the mad Pro Russian opinion put against it.
Balanced would be having another person presenting an argument on trying to destroy Russia and that NATO should invade it, even if it ended in Nuclear war.
So either just give the middle ground, or include both sides of madness aswell. Instead they have opted to only include pro Russian madness.
Putin planning local elections in occupied territories for September, looks like he's actually doubling down trying to legitimise his land grab
Would that list include “ ass assination?
naive - maybe delusional might be more appropriate ?
We certainly do have very different viewpoints. And your comparison to our friends up in NI and across the water is utterly facile. These are mostly our friends and neighbours - they are not trying to crush us, kill our people, kidnap our children, rape our women, take over our resources and they are not raining missiles down on our cities.
Indeed. If people force a middle ground then it just benefits whichever side is the more extreme.
It's most likely something to do with how they approach their target. Russia will try to figure out where Ukraine's air defense are on a given night, then they will try to come up with a missile flight path that avoids these defenses, or gives them the lowest reaction time. That might involve approaching from the Black Sea for example, because missiles can fly very low over water (no buildings or mountains to crash into).
Without more details I can only speculate.
One tactic Russia appear to be using is taking off with a large number of planes, sending a wave of Shaheds in to probe for weaknesses, then launching missiles only from a few of the airborne planes.
You’re absolutely wasting your time with that one. He compared SF goal of a United Ireland to Russia actions in Ukraine in a different thread the other day. The absurdity is off the scale. Not all there. Historically Ireland and Ukraine have lots in common vs a brutal neighbour
I'd have some concerns about the whole tactical nuke shpiel of last week followed by a significant increase in air attacks on Kyiv. It's still madness to think they'd drop a nuke on Kyiv but there's no reason to think they won't considering there's the potential that Russians are slowly running out of supplies and they can't replenish quick enough. It's entirely possible that these strikes are a means of running down Ukranian equipment to clear the airspace for high impact attacks, or it's simply scumbaggery as usual.
Some people can't think beyond binary terms. It's part of the reason that the media does this thing where they try to act "balanced". The person that you're responding to appears to be exactly what they are catering to - they seemed annoyed that the covid coverage was stacked with too many scientists and not enough 5g crackpots for balance. In that worldview, there are two sides and only two sides for everything.
What bothers me about Clare Daly is that her only qualification is a willingness to shill for authoritarian regimes and high media availability. She has no expertise on international affairs and her knowledge of these places comes from stage-managed junkets financed by the regimes that she ends up shilling for. Her views don't represent some sane block of people here. She's not putting forth the view of constituents. She's not providing truthful information. All she's doing is using the media to promote whatever view Putin wants her to.
The matter has been well covered already on this thread - it's possible but quite unlikely as even supposed Russian allies are opposed to such a course. And it would spell disaster for Russia's conventional forces and possibly many citizens.
Calls to assassinate him now
I find it hard to defend Mr "Use My Words Against Me" Graham.
Stupid in fairness, will only galvanise the Russians.
Someone posted a tweet about it earlier and the crying, wailing and gnashing of teeth that was going on under it among the pro Russian filth and "bots" [on twitter] over the "best money we've ever spent" remark was mad and very funny.
He really seems to have triggered them all, which is surprising if the "special operation" is all going wonderfully and these US/Western weapons are useless, a waste + have no effect on Russias military plans!
Rats fleeing the sinking ship?
That feeling good feeling is coming upon me...
Might be the second time Graham said something I'd agree with. Then again, he's said some things reasonable people agree with
..
Mariupol seems to be taking an absolute battering from those Storm Shadow missiles in the past week. You'd think the Russians would realise by now that they need to distribute their assets within its effective range. It was announced the the UAF had it 18 days ago. That's just sloppy.
to create hundreds of newregs here on Boards to ask questions 'whatabout Amurica', 'whatabout Iraq, Israel, IRA and NI' and posting 'good articles to read from credible authors' about economic collapse of Europe and America, and , of course, neverending prosperity of mighty holy ruSSia. You know, the ususual rinse and repeat.
For those who understand orcish...
Read a report (Asian) that some Russian units were now repositioning and that airstrikes were being made on Ukrainian units to their rear. Expecting the start of an offensive very soon?
Does anyone here think Ukraine can drive Russia from the annexed territories including Crimea? Because this is the US/British/Ukrainian goal.
What is orcish?