Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Russia - threadbanned users in OP

1287228732875287728783690

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    If the gangsters in the kremlin could have a yacht parade it probably would be the most impressive

    I'd imagine infighting and vested interests keeping what weapons are left close in case there's a sudden breakup of the federation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    I see Prigozhin has a nice Victory Day message for Putin (?) this morning:

    They're killing our soldiers, and happy grandpa thinks he's doing fine.

    ...

    What should the country do, what should our children, our grandchildren, the future of Russia?

    And how do you win a war if by some random chance, I'm just guessing, that grandpa turns out to be a complete asshole?

    I thought this whole Prigozhin threat was a ruse. Now I'm not so sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I can picture it now, Daly spluttering down a microphone: "Putin is bad but those imperialist Western cables are the real issue! It's no surprise the Russians were put in a position where they had to cut them! We don't even know it was them, it could just have easily been NATO. Both sides are as bad as each other!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,622 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It looks like Russia is now incapable of a successful strike on Kyiv due to the advanced western anti missile systems Ukraine has. This once against demonstrates conventional Russian military equipment by and large is no match for the West, bar maybe hypersonic missiles ,which the Russians have very little of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The biggest problem at the moment is the Russian glide bombs which are regularly Targeting the Ukrainan front lines ,they operate below air defense radars,if they change tactic and start sending bombs into cities and towns they could cause some serious damage,

    As long there airforce can operate without challenge from the blacksea , Caspian sea and Belarus,they are still very much dangerous,



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    the military industrial complex dicks must be rock hard right about now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,622 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I don't think their airforce is capable of doing that, otherwise they would be doing it already. Their airforce is appalling, even the Americans, with all their intelligence on the Russian military, were taken aback at just how incompetent they have proved to be . In years to come if you look up articles on the strongest militaries in the world Russia should be no where near second place. It sounds like the head of wagner with these series of rants knows he is being set up as the fall guy for the failure to take complete control of Bakhumt



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,560 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Surely it can't be that difficult to reverse engineer and re-produce the missiles for the S300 since they already have stocks of them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I doubt it's that simple. If things were that simple Ukraine could be mass producing their long range GRIM rockets, could be sending shahed clones back to Russia etc...

    You would think Ukraine could approach the likes of Raytheon with money to build compatible rockets for their S300's



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The Americans already have in S300 systems bought or borrowed by various means ,

    The problem likely not wanting to produce a missle that will only go to ukraine, most of the other countries that operate it aren't allied to Nato or the EU ,add the bonus of the s300 isn't a wonderwaffen and isn't perfect against what the Ukrainans are up against, everyone now wants the latest and greatest missles available,not one's that will very much limited rockets available for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    IMO a waste of time. As I usually point out, I am no expert even of armchair type but I really don't think on evidence of what has happened in Ukraine that anything the Soviet/Russian "MIC" has produced is really that much better than what the US/Western countries can give Ukraine.

    Given Russia's actions + their refusal to back off from their effort to destroy Ukraine, assuming Ukraine survives (seems likely now) it will become a defacto NATO member at some point operating all classes of the NATO weapons, bar nuclear.

    So training them to use Patriot + similar, stopping the restrictions on what missiles they can have etc. and Ukraine's allies increasing own production of ammunition (that they already know how to make...) as fast as possible to meet demands of the war in Ukraine seems the better option.

    I find the whole US/NATO entirely reactive strategy making less sense to me now + quite poor (in a cautious, penny-wise pound-foolish kind of way) and frustrating. I wonder does Biden's age (in fact the general extreme age of entire set of US politicians and leaders, the senate etc. - they have an almost last days of the Soviet Union air about them) have something to do with it?

    IMO at this stage given what Russia has done, it should be clear they need to be beaten here for the good of everyone. The cost of failing to make sure Putin/regime gets no wins/gains from what they have done is being underpriced by Ukraines' supporters IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,632 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    The time and effort to re-tool a factory to produce these things, and then processes for quality control etc, its not worth it at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,462 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If we ever needed confirmation how fucked Russian tank stockpiles are it's that parade. Obviously they still have a lot around the frontlines and rear but they'll be all gone within another year.


    I read a report that Russia are now pulling a lot of T-55's out. They have a lot they can access and they're easier and faster to train mobilised soldier's on. So over the next 12 months Russia will transition to an army of t-55's. Meanwhile Ukraine over the next year will be transitioning to leopards, Abrams and they already have plenty of Soviet tanks better then the 55.


    Great to see a high success rate last night. Those 25 missiles are a lot less then the barrages they we're firing 6 months ago. Ukraine will only get more western air defence including patriot's going forward so this is another positive trend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Perseverance The Second


    They don't really have a lot of T-54/55's Only about 400-ish

    But they are good enough to act as a stopgap to pull out more T-80's, T-72's and T-62's. As People say any Tank is better than no tank.

    Which is of course a bad reflection on the part of the world's second biggest army.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Perseverance The Second


    You really have to wonder what is wrong with T-14's that they could not even get onto the parade this year. Whether it's the squeeze on western components or they suffer from particularly bad mechanical reliability.

    Last year only 2 or the 3 schedule T-14 Armatas showed up

    This time None whatosever. A Tank that Russia is desperately trying to get export orders for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,462 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    They'll be useful as fixed positions where they're dug into the ground with only the turret showing and being used for defensive positions. That's about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Maybe they are in a Russian factory/engineering bay somewhere as some poor souls work 25 hr days to desperately try and find a way to put them into crash mass production (perhaps with Chinese/ripped off electronics and optics) on Fuhrer Putin's orders! Not a pleasant job I'd think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Did nobody tell you,the 5 they posess are in Ukraine, ,they announced it last year 3/4 times ,and this year they announced it as well,,,,,,,


    We're all still waiting to see at least one of the 5 somewhere in Ukraine 15 months later



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    Somewhere along the way he well and truly fell down a rabbit hole

    He went after Lukashenko's carrot.

    image.png




  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,560 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    My thinking was more that since they already have a large number of the launchers and don't seem to be getting modern Western replacements at a fast enough rate that producing the ammunition for the launchers they do have could be a quick way to plug the gap. Contrary to the common expresssion, rocket science really isn't all that difficult and I'd have thought that cloning the stock they do have (or, better yet, figuring out how to adapt a readily available western missile to the S300 launchers) wouldn't have been beyond the realms of possibility.

    Obviously, I'm sure Ukraine would prefer a full complement of Patriot batteries but I'd have thought providing more ammo for the launchers they do have should be the faster and cheaper option...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    they couldnt even organise much of a parade this year...Ukrainian farmers must have a bigger stockpile at this stage.


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

    yo! donnie vonshitzinpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,560 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Interesting timing, just spotted the below on Twitter. Looks like the US decided to take their Hawk air defense system is coming out of mothballs.

    It's hardly the most modern piece of kit but not that much older than the S300s and I believe there are large stockpiles of ammunition quite readily available too... Presumably much more economical per shot than Patriots too...





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    holy crap....did they shoot him...?or did he just have an extra shot of breakfast vodka...?


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

    yo! donnie vonshitzinpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Could be like the Irish soldier at the Michael Collins commemoration last year or given the timing of the shots somebody may well have aimed down instead of up 🙃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    The clip cut off before that conscript got kicked halfway to death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭paul71


    I just never have or perhaps ever will understand Seagal. I do not know how, with such an obvious lack of talent he ever managed to get past a screentest for the toothpaste ad.

    I can only conclude it is a P.T. Barnum effect, a modern freakshow. Even with age he seems to have managed to outdo Cher as worst plastic surgery job ever. His face looks like a hideously botched experiment involving a reverse liposuction and simultaneous botox. What a hero Russia has chosen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,798 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Soldiers fainting while on parade duty is common all over the world. Unlikely to be alcohol related. Looks like the lights went out on that poor chap immediately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭paul71


    True I seem to recall having seen it 5 or 6 times live. Trooping of the colours in Buckingham palace a couple of times. Last year at 100 year aniversery of Michael Collins' Death, I also seem to recall it at an honour guard when Mary Robinson was president.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Unlikely to be alcohol related in any other places than Russia. In Russia, it's either the alcohol in their blood, or the lack of alcohol in their blood - which is a very dangerous and potentially deadly "affliction" for a habitual heavy drinker.



This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement