When you look at the latest polling of GOP voters about their intentions for the GOP Primaries , it shows some genuine signs of "derangement" to be honest
61% of them want a candidate that believes that Trump won in 2020 and 57% of them want a candidate that "makes liberals angry" , not make things better for themselves but to make the other side angry..
So the Top issues for the GOP voters are stopping other people having freedom and making their opponents angry.
Yup.. That seems sane.
And of those that say they will vote for Trump you have the following
75% of them think he won...That's derangement pure and simple.
BUT...The polling also shows the limit of the MAGA vote
He only has 24% locked in and more are definitely not going to vote for him than those have already decided to vote for him.
They are both sides of the same coin.
The radicals that protest that Trump won the election and it was actively stolen are the other side of the coin from the radicals from the left with TDS.
I deplore both groups of radicals.
There are loons everywhere , but it's 61% of all GOP voters that's a whole hell of a lot more than a "fringe" element.
If asked a similar set of questions do you really believe that 57% of Democrat voters would list "Making Conservatives angry" as a vital trait in their preferred candidate?
The GOP has a membership of 36 million - just under 10% of the US population.
So only 20+ million people you're talking about there.
Elections are much bigger events than what you're describing.
As for your latter question, yes - it seems both Democrats and the GOP have the same anger problem - in fact, Democrats are even angrier (which explains a lot on this thread, too).
Eskimohunt on the 13th Nov 2022...
"I don't want Trump to win or to run again"
Yet here he is defending Trump as if he was his No.1 fan.
New account, same old inconsistent shite.
I don't want Trump to win or to run again.
I'd like Ron DeSantis to take the baton this time around. It probably won't happen, but that would be my ideal preference.
Nice try though...
Well firstly thats not the same thing as voting to make the other side angry and secondly that was prior to the midterm elections which democrats were predicted to do far worse than they actually did
20M people with the ability to vote that cannot process basic information and recognise that Trump lost should be a huge concern - 20M is almost 3 times the margin of victory in 2020.
And as for the attempt at comparing being "angry" about the result of an Election to actively selecting a candidate on the basis of their ability to make the other side angry?
That's really really weak , even for you.
They are absolutely categorically not the same thing and you know it.
Did you even look at your own link?
It's based on "Share of voters who said the following emotions described their feelings about the 2022 midterm elections for Congress “very” or “somewhat” well" - Between 2018 and 2022, Democrats "anger" fell from 49% to 42%. Republicans anger rose from 28% to 41%.
Regardless, you're missing the point QD was making. Anger as a motivation for people to vote does not equate to "One of the primary reasons I want our candidate to win is to make the other side angry".
If Democrats are angry, it stands to reason that - simply by human nature, schadenfreude - that they are happy if Conservatives are dealt a blow or two.
Sure all you need to do is look how happy people on this thread are when something bad happens to the GOP, a prominent conservative, or Donald Trump.
There's nothing weak about that. It's a simple fact of turbulent politics.
"One of the primary reasons I want our candidate to win is to make the other side angry".
I could almost understand it if that was what they were saying.
Clearly you are going to be disappointed and yes maybe even angry if your side loses , but that's not what they are saying here.
What 57% are actually saying is that they will choose their candidate based on that candidates ability to make the other side angry.
So they are choosing not on policy and things like that , but on the candidates ability to be a prick to opponents.
All the polls show reps have more fiends on each side. This is because dems have been indoctrinated into seeing the worst in people. They are more willing to hate someone for their beliefs than repubs.
Trump was voted in based mostly on hatred of HC.
"Right wing newspaper prints survey from right-wing think tank that says right wing people are nicer than left wing people"
Seems legit.
No it doesn't, the world isn't a zero sum game like you seem to believe.
Still not answering the question.
Do you think that 57% of Democrat voters would choose a candidate on the basis of their ability to "make Conservatives angry".
The fact that someone from the "other" side getting into power would by extension mean that policies that annoy or anger you might be enacted is not the same thing at all.
For example - A Democrat voter might select a candidate on the basis that they support LGBTQ rights or Abortion , policies which may indeed make a GOP voter angry if legislation was passed about them.
And that is to be expected I guess , however what I don't see a Democrat voter doing (certainly not 57% of them) is selecting a candidate purely based on that candidates personal ability to irritate and anger the opposition, which is what the above polling is saying GOP voters are doing.
The only people who suffer from TDS are his supporters and fans. Even the ones who claim not to be supporters and fans.
Talk about projection.
Was the 2020 Election stolen from trump?
I've told you before, I ignore everything you write because it's gibberish.
It doesn't matter what username you post under.
Probably upset that I was pretty good at remembering, googling, and linking to him contradicting himself and getting into knots.
Still avoiding the key questions I see.
Do you think that 57% (or any significant number) of registered Democrats will select their 2024 candidate on the basis of that individuals personal ability to "anger" the other side?
Hmm 20 million is a much smaller number than 74,223,975 🤣
Finally something I can agree with...
That Trump has no shot of winning a general election 🤣 therefore why are you helplessly stringing yourself along about a press conference during covid that ended so badly Trump wasn’t seen at another one for months?
Nobody here has suggested that Trump will win the next General Election.
You've just made that up.
That makes your “Trump derangement syndrome” in favor of him really quite something then.
Still waiting on that list of legitimate criticisms of Trump.
Or was that just something you made up as a self serving argument?
That's a non sequitur.
My criticism of Donald Trump is well established, hence why I would rather Ron DeSantis lead the GOP into the next election.
Where are these posts full of legitimate criticisms of Donald Trump?
Well?
Someone might favour DeSantis because he has less 'baggage', or because they think DeSantis comes across better. Because they think DeSantis has a better chance in the general election at winning.
That's hardly in the same ballpark as the legitimate criticisms cited on this thread - that he actually broke the law, his role in the January 6th riots \ insurrection, his reckless conduct in office. Never mind if Trump was not standing again, those criticisms would stand.
So at the moment your legitimate criticisms of Donald Trump stands at zero, yet you repeat the claim. The claim appears to be without foundation, or merit.
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