worth pointing out again that lisbon has a decent underground metro system.
Hopefully this will be successful and made permanent (selfishly, because we're planning on visiting lisbon in the latter half of the year)
A very effective method of eliminating congestion entirely as Oslo has proven.
Dublin could to the same with a handful of car bans on certain streets. Its madness that you can still drive on the quays from the port through the city centre out to the M50. Even if we stopped cars travelling east-west on both sides of O'Connell Bridge, we'd remove a huge % of cars.
Lisbon to hold a three month trial in which cars driving through the city will be banned (you can still drive to the city)...
But the title of the thread is cities reducing car access, a few bus stops with car parks in relatively rural locations hasn’t got much to do with this discussion.
it was in response to the post above which mentioned Bus P&R in the north.
Bus park n ride is hardly the cutting edge now
Bus park&ride is being planned here, initially on the N11 but they have a strategy that includes other primary routes.
I wouldn't agree on the point about the 1960s or on the point about the Anglosphere. If we were stuck in the 1960s, we'd still have cars going down Grafton Street and Henry Street, through Galway's main thoroughfare of Shop/High/Quay Streets and in various other places in the country.
On the point about the Anglosphere I'll draw your attention to one contradictory example from just up the road in the North. The new A6 Dungiven->Derry Dual Carriageway has just opened, which has two Bus Park N' Rides - one at Claudy and the other at the terminus at Drumahoe (Derry). Further along the Belfast road you'll find Park n Rides at the following junctions: Maghera, Castledawson, Toomebridge, Dunsilly and TemplePatrick (Ballymartin). That's seven Bus Park n Rides adjacent to the Motorway/Dual Carriageway on the Derry->Belfast road.
How many do we have adjacent to our Motorways? It's almost as if Bus Park n' Rides are illegal in this Republic, such is the dearth of them.
Let's not blame being part of the Anglosphere for our own lack of willingness. We're quite capable of taking the examples of best practice from non-Anglophone countries when we want to.
I look on enviously at the likes of Germany, the Netherlands and even Spain and France and the progress they have made recently with their public transport and active travel measures while we stay stuck in the 1960s car brained Anglosphere.
Mad Max was a documentary
From down under...
They do phrase it correctly in the tweet, but most of those trolls see the opportunity to flex their fingers anyways
Bit stupid of DCC to tweet this in my opinion. Basically show a part of the street being tarmacked. It's going to look a lot better when finished but all this has done is fed the dublinistheworstmostdangerousbiggestkipontheplanetfullofromascum trolls with ammunition.
Don't see the point in congestion charging. Oslo has achieved a much greater reduction in car use by making its city centre access only. We could do the same by simply preventing cars travelling east-west on either side of O'Connell Bridge then go about making all roads in the city centre one lane per direction, remove all the turning lanes on a phased basis. Congestion charging is a complexity we don't need and won't be able to manage anyway. All attempts at camera enforcement have failed so congestion charging will be the same.
yeah, it's ridiculous some of the massive lorries companies are using to deliver into built up areas here. There's a Sports Direct near me and once a week an articulated juggernaut drives down the main street and blocks the whole place up as it reverses into the SD carpark. It's totally inappropriate but it suits Sports Direct to be able to send out one huge truck rather than several smaller ones.
That was insane.
Like, I get that it's a parking strategy, but it completely ignores the fact that the government has a Climate Action Plan that's meant to reduce car use, and instead most of the options that people get to vote on are about increase car parking spaces. If they all went ahead, there'd be over a thousand more car parking spaces in or around the park.
Also ignores their own report, people told them that bus routes into the park would be the biggest driver of change, and yet there's zero questions about it.
In one European country, Germany I think, large trucks are not allowed in the city centre. Instead they have to go to a depot outside of the city, unload & a small van brings the goods into the city. I don't see why that shouldn't work here?
I'm all for fewer cars in the town's & cities but we need a good transport service & if that means buses & trams or even an underground then so be it! We need dedicated bus lanes with more one way systems & more traffic wardens to enforce the rules.
PT is my default when in Dublin. I've driven inside the M50 just once, as far as Dundrum Centre unplanned. My world has yet to fall apart.
It doesn't need to be an extortionate amount to have an effect.
Also, I don't buy the "can't afford it" line. If you have a car you're paying tax, insurance, maintenance, NCT, fuel, and parking. Not to mention depreciation.
A car is a colossal money pit so a congestion charge is not going to break the bank.
As for impact on traffic, road safety and air quality, if you have a congestion charge, high hourly parking rates, reduced priority and removal of on street parking then regardless, it becomes an inconvenience to drive in. You can still do it, it just becomes a hassle and the alternatives become more appealing.
A congestion charge will not fix anything on its own, nor will any one element, but stack them up (carrots and sticks) and the modal shift follows as sure as night follows day
That article has been updated since you posted it to include the following:
The Government will not introduce congestion charges, the Taoiseach has told the Dáil ... "There is no proposal from this Government to introduce congestion charges. Certainly not under this Government and not in the foreseeable future".
Good, IMO. If you want cars off the streets, take them off the streets, and don't have a situation where some people who can afford it, are allowed to drive.
that's grand so - plenty for the metro!
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The consultation survey is out and its incredibly poor, like really, really shite. I was honestly stunned when I got to the last page was like "is that it, wtf"
The draft strategy document is actually quite good and goes into a massive amount of detail and the the survey......asks 7 questions and one of those is whether you live in Dublin.
Have you say on the Draft Phoenix Park Parking strategy, from tomorrow. I'd include a link to the strategy here, but it's not up on the site anywhere that I can find. Maybe it'll pop up tomorrow.
Someone else noted that it isn't 100% clear that the outdoor seating area was ever a formal loading bay - from Streetview it can be seen that it was previously a taxi rank and before that a left turning lane, but I guess in practice a taxi rank would have acted as a loading bay as needed.
Regardless though - the driver went right into and over the first high vis 'flag' pole which definitely isn't there for that purpose, and as the poster of the video on Twitter pointed out, the mandatory cycle lane turns into an advisory cycle lane further down, so the driver could have pulled in there.
It's symptomatic of a widespread problem though that's been already alluded to - commercial operators are allowed to take the piss and facilitated by the councils through putting in those flexible poles and baby Orcas that they can run over, and then the councils/local reps not giving two f*cks or complicitly turning a blind eye "BeCaUse HaRd WoRkinG DriVeRs".
apart from that, as the cyclist points out in the video - solid white line means a mandatory cycle lane.
Those short poles are actually there to be driven over, so there's almost certainly a parking spot or delivery zone there.
In saying that though, he shouldn't be driving over the big poles at all, they get wrecked very easily.
EDIT: Ah, just read further into the article, and the pub has turned their loading bay into a outdoor drinking area, so zero sympathy there, they need to unload legally.
Delivery to the pub. No one cares.
Like seriously where is the guiness truck trying to go?
I noticed today that the cycle lane on Conningham Road, usually chocoblock with parked cars is now coned off, not to protect cyclists but to stop cars parking there for the Biden visit *Eye roll*
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