Why would they get giddy if Ukraine don't make gains? This poster you're replying to is one of the most active on this thread and has been giddy only for Ukrainian gains to date.
I take my hat off to them as well for having the ability to look past their emotional want for Ukraine to win (same want as my own before you accuse anything different) and see what is front of them in a balanced way.
Supporting Ukraine and discussing their potential losses are not mutually exclusive, you can do both. You'd be mad not to consider all possibilities and purposely discarding real possible outcomes because you would rather hear otherwise is just silly.
Just checking, but you do realise their country has been invaded? Would you give up fighting if your country was invaded the likes of the Russians?
I'm sure they're well aware of that fact. You're well aware that countries have been invaded in the past and the people within have had to give up fighting eventually.
I'm not making any prediction or stating what way things will go, i'm just pointing out how your shutting down of this poster does nothing for the discussion. They are valid points being made.
No, your questions are easy to answer. If Ukraine don’t make much gains, and you get giddy… Ukraine will go again. Just checking, but you do realise their country has been invaded? Would you give up fighting if your country was invaded the likes of the Russians?
The Ukrainians were at their weakest at the start of this war and the Orcs were disgraced. Why do you think the Ukrainians have less resolve now from a stronger position. At best it’s defeatist.
6 day's to May for Bakhmut.
I seen a video that it's tying down huge number of Russian troops. Not just the city but the flanks they need to secure to stop a Ukrainian counter attack.
With the weather being bad Ukraine might need to keep them occupied here for another 4 to 6 week's to keep them occupied before a potential counter attack elsewhere.
I already posted a BBC article where Biden is quaoted as saying the US would intervene - do keep up.
Speaking of keeping up, you claimed only poor uneducated people are fighting for Ukraine and that all the talent left.
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Unfortunately we mostly get to hear about these heroes when they die.
Everyones favorite US putin agent fox news host tucker Carlson just got sacked
No they're not, at least not legally.
The Ukrainians are at liberty to refuse to accept the surrender of Wagner troops in retaliation, as being mercenaries, they are fair game.
What your actually saying is your afraid to say anything other the the usual so that you don't end up on the end of a I told you so .
So what happens if ukraine doesn't make any gains then What,
This is what your been asked but all you can reply is orc propaganda, which suggests that you have limited knowledge of the actual situation in ukraine and Ukraine in 12 months time
So, having infinite supplies is irrelevant because nobody has and was simply hyperbolic. So, now you're back to Russian stockpiles and purchasing from North Korea is a better bet than the entire Western world production ability. Go figure.
Looking back on your posts, when there was a sizeable minority pro Russian you had enough people to argue with. Then, post considerable moderation, you've changed tune... so you can have arguments. I think the term I'm looking for is contrarian. This seems to be your guiding principle rather than any particular interest in any side prevailing.
Nobody,
But guess what there is only a few manufacturers in the eu , very limited and difficulties involving infighting about who and where it gets made ,
Your providing a point here
Oh, right... interesting. Can you tell us who has infinite supplies of ammunition, weapons and vehicles ? Are you going to say, the corrupt, inept Russians?
Go on, I dare you!
Russian state-controlled propaganda is not the same as corroborated information from global free press. That's false equivalence.
The Russian military systematically commits atrocities. The Ukrainian military has been accused of several isolated incidents, but it's generally rare. They are not comparable. False equivalence again.
This is a cheap technique used by state propaganda outlets like Russia Today. Proposing that their authoritarian totalitarian state is not perfect, but that other free democratic nations are somehow "just as bad". That invading troops are not perfect, but that the defenders are "just as bad".
RT is widely banned or de-platformed because it's Putin's mouthpiece. Something that triggers Putin apologists no end.
And again no one in the eu or Nato has infinite supplies of ammunition, weapons and vehicles to handover,
As stated if Ukraine don't achieve a lot with the upcoming counter offensive there will be not only questions but calls for other solutions,
Anyone who says otherwise are playing silly games because they think they know it all, and repeating Slava Ukrani change nothing
Biden fears he'll get it in the neck from Hawks and Doves if Ukraine under perform. That's just politics.
As long as Ukraine are willing to fight, I don't see any country being the Judas and stopping support. It would be inconceivable for the likes of Poland and the Baltics to retract support. And the journalists again seem to be underestimating 'give my amunintino, not a ride' Zelensky if they think he'll forsake Ukrainians to a life under RuZZia.
That will work against him. The Ukrainians will fight to death if they are going to die after capture anyhow.
If you honestly think you can compare Ukrainian soldiers to Russian soldiers in relation to their behavior then you deserve nothing better than RT.
Binden fears the aftermath of a failed counter offensive,,,,,
But wait...
I was on my holidays outside of Europe
Banned within
Darth on point as usual.
You answered your own question
Why is RT banned?
I was watching it for a bit last night and it's pure propaganda. Just like we are fed anyway but from the other side!
The Ukrainian military are no angels either lads
Ok, I started a thread on China v Taiwan. If you're interested head on over......
Turkish, Russian and Syrians and Iranian ministers to meet for discussions on bringing peace to the region
My Russian brahs?
in English please
Is there no autocratic, despot regime you don't create fantasies about?
Orcs and Mercs killing each other.
I'm shocked, never thought throwing a bunch of malnourished drunken criminals together would lead to that.
But it does effect the war in Ukraine, being china are being pushed as the peacemakers, while supporting their Ally Russia ,
Doesn't necessarily need a separate thread
Ehhh welll ehhh but, that goes for any army. In fact, same goes for your Russian brahs. And don't give me that, 'but, I've been supporting Ukraine since Noah was a boy bit,' - I'll judge you on your recent statements, if that's alright with your lordship.
Keep watching, Ukraine will win this fight.
But nobody has indicated a withdrawal of financial support. In the case of the US, financial and military support go hand in hand. Nearly 40% of everything the US has committed to Ukraine is in the form of financial and humanitarian support.
The EU institutions are the primary giver of financial support to Ukraine (while the military support they provide is relatively small). This excludes additional bilateral supports provided by member states (incl Ireland). Financial support from the EU is not contingent on the outcome of the war nor is it related to the military commitments of NATO members. This support will continue for many years after the war ends. The EU (and the US) have committed to financing the rebuilding of Ukraine. Already there are signs that hundreds of large companies are positioning themselves for government contracts that will follow once the fighting ends.
When considering how the military conflict might end there is a number of potential scenarios, but that scenario you paint of the West pulling the plug on financial aid and leaving Ukraine to collapse doesn't exist.
The “West” is already at war with China. The war in Ukraine is just the beginning, as disillusioned I am with the west, authoritarianism isn’t the answer. And if you think some Chinese fella cares about your interests, you’re seriously deluded.
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