Macron seems to have a firm eye fixed on his legacy and how he might be regarded as the great statesmen of his time! An arrogant so and so.
China can only get their hands on the Taiwanese semiconductor industry if Taiwan surrenders peacefully. A full scale invasion would mean the destruction of factories -- even a small contamination of a semiconductor production line renders the factory useless until a costly cleanup is performed. But factories are nothing without highly skilled people, engineers and managers, that know how to use them. And these people will leave if Taiwan is likely to fall -- their skills are highly transferrable.
China will never get Taiwanese semiconductor industry.
My point is that I can't see Ukraine surrendering even if they lose support from Western allies. Without the US, they'd still have friendly neighbours with a demonstrated willingness to provide what armaments they can (and host repair workshops etc.), have some capability to produce their own armaments and, crucially imo, aren't under sanctions restricting their ability to procure essential components for the manufacture of modern arms.
Russia's ability to produce arms has been seriously degraded by those sanctions and their stockpiles have been greatly depleted by the war to date.
Without support from Western Allies Ukraine would certainly have to fire less artillery rounds and would likely lose the ability to muster combined forces assault groups for large scale counter-offensives etc. but this is an existential war for them: a withdrawal of support from their allies is unlikely to erode their willingness to fight (and some aspects of the support already delivered i.e. training and equipment would continue to be useful in the medium term).
It seems unlikely to me that an actual Russian Asset like Trump would take power in the US again too so while a future US president may be forced by Congress to row back on the big price ticket arms deliveries, the sharing of intelligence with the Ukrainians which despite not having a large monetary figure attached has been invaluable to them could well still continue as long as there was someone in the Whitehouse interested in seeing Russia's military capabilities further degraded (and I think that's a fair assumption of a US President, Democrat or Republican).
The war would change and unless Ukraine could continue to mount an effective air defence they'd be in a very precarious position but from what we've seen of the "world's second army" would anyone be surprised if Ukraine continued to hold out without overt US support?
Ukraine need financial aid to the tune of billions every month just to keep the lights on. Its this support, not the military aid, that dictates whether they can keep fighting or not.
Without financial support from western partners to keep their economy afloat they would collapse and cannot sustain any war effort either.
There is no certainties in life, China has their eyes on Taiwan and i wouldn't underestimate their ability to do whatever it takes.
No, not anymore, unless you add the adjectives "deceased" or "imprisoned".
Absolutely.
There is a video of the missile hitting right beside where the women are cowering beside a fence.
It must have been an errand missile as there was no military buildings anywhere near the area.
Also interviews with Wagner personal who were showing off the weapons left behind by retreating Ukrainians. M16 rifles and bullets.
They also claim to have found identification from Polish and Georgians
Lavrov arrived at the UN.
The “West” is already at war with China. The war in Ukraine is just the beginning, as disillusioned I am with the west, authoritarianism isn’t the answer. And if you think some Chinese fella cares about your interests, you’re seriously deluded.
But nobody has indicated a withdrawal of financial support. In the case of the US, financial and military support go hand in hand. Nearly 40% of everything the US has committed to Ukraine is in the form of financial and humanitarian support.
The EU institutions are the primary giver of financial support to Ukraine (while the military support they provide is relatively small). This excludes additional bilateral supports provided by member states (incl Ireland). Financial support from the EU is not contingent on the outcome of the war nor is it related to the military commitments of NATO members. This support will continue for many years after the war ends. The EU (and the US) have committed to financing the rebuilding of Ukraine. Already there are signs that hundreds of large companies are positioning themselves for government contracts that will follow once the fighting ends.
When considering how the military conflict might end there is a number of potential scenarios, but that scenario you paint of the West pulling the plug on financial aid and leaving Ukraine to collapse doesn't exist.
Ehhh welll ehhh but, that goes for any army. In fact, same goes for your Russian brahs. And don't give me that, 'but, I've been supporting Ukraine since Noah was a boy bit,' - I'll judge you on your recent statements, if that's alright with your lordship.
Keep watching, Ukraine will win this fight.
But it does effect the war in Ukraine, being china are being pushed as the peacemakers, while supporting their Ally Russia ,
Doesn't necessarily need a separate thread
Orcs and Mercs killing each other.
I'm shocked, never thought throwing a bunch of malnourished drunken criminals together would lead to that.
Is there no autocratic, despot regime you don't create fantasies about?
My Russian brahs?
in English please
Turkish, Russian and Syrians and Iranian ministers to meet for discussions on bringing peace to the region
Ok, I started a thread on China v Taiwan. If you're interested head on over......
Why is RT banned?
I was watching it for a bit last night and it's pure propaganda. Just like we are fed anyway but from the other side!
The Ukrainian military are no angels either lads
You answered your own question
Darth on point as usual.
I was on my holidays outside of Europe
Banned within
Binden fears the aftermath of a failed counter offensive,,,,,
But wait...
If you honestly think you can compare Ukrainian soldiers to Russian soldiers in relation to their behavior then you deserve nothing better than RT.
That will work against him. The Ukrainians will fight to death if they are going to die after capture anyhow.
Biden fears he'll get it in the neck from Hawks and Doves if Ukraine under perform. That's just politics.
As long as Ukraine are willing to fight, I don't see any country being the Judas and stopping support. It would be inconceivable for the likes of Poland and the Baltics to retract support. And the journalists again seem to be underestimating 'give my amunintino, not a ride' Zelensky if they think he'll forsake Ukrainians to a life under RuZZia.
And again no one in the eu or Nato has infinite supplies of ammunition, weapons and vehicles to handover,
As stated if Ukraine don't achieve a lot with the upcoming counter offensive there will be not only questions but calls for other solutions,
Anyone who says otherwise are playing silly games because they think they know it all, and repeating Slava Ukrani change nothing
Russian state-controlled propaganda is not the same as corroborated information from global free press. That's false equivalence.
The Russian military systematically commits atrocities. The Ukrainian military has been accused of several isolated incidents, but it's generally rare. They are not comparable. False equivalence again.
This is a cheap technique used by state propaganda outlets like Russia Today. Proposing that their authoritarian totalitarian state is not perfect, but that other free democratic nations are somehow "just as bad". That invading troops are not perfect, but that the defenders are "just as bad".
RT is widely banned or de-platformed because it's Putin's mouthpiece. Something that triggers Putin apologists no end.
Oh, right... interesting. Can you tell us who has infinite supplies of ammunition, weapons and vehicles ? Are you going to say, the corrupt, inept Russians?
Go on, I dare you!
Nobody,
But guess what there is only a few manufacturers in the eu , very limited and difficulties involving infighting about who and where it gets made ,
Your providing a point here
So, having infinite supplies is irrelevant because nobody has and was simply hyperbolic. So, now you're back to Russian stockpiles and purchasing from North Korea is a better bet than the entire Western world production ability. Go figure.
Looking back on your posts, when there was a sizeable minority pro Russian you had enough people to argue with. Then, post considerable moderation, you've changed tune... so you can have arguments. I think the term I'm looking for is contrarian. This seems to be your guiding principle rather than any particular interest in any side prevailing.
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