An innocent reason to display the Iron Cross?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058292469/an-innocent-reason-to-display-the-iron-cross

"The Iron Cross (German: Eisernes Kreuz, abbreviated EK) was a military decoration in the Kingdom of Prussia, and later in the German Empire (1871–1918) and Nazi Germany (1933–1945). The design, a black cross pattée with a white or silver outline, was derived from the insignia of the medieval Teutonic Order and borne by its knights from the 13th century. As well as being a military medal, it has also been used as an emblem by the Prussian Army, the Imperial German Army, and the Reichswehr of the German Republic, while the Balkenkreuz (bar cross) variant was used by the Wehrmacht. The Iron Cross is now the emblem of the Bundeswehr, the modern German armed forces."

Maybe he's just a military fan or an admirer of the modern German army?

Or, of course, it could be that he just liked that look of it and has no idea of it's history.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120480448#Comment_120480448

And this is a CA thread.....

Danzy

The Nazi cross?

That's a new one.

He is probably a metal head FFS.

Japandamo

If nazis are feeling brave enough to drive around publicly it feels kinda current affairsy? Non?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120480451#Comment_120480451

Look, I saw it and that was the first thing I thought of, and Google knew what I was talking about. Maybe he is a metal head. I would love that for him. Literally what I was hoping for and why I asked. Thank you.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120480425#Comment_120480425

It takes all sorts I guess. Thanks for the information.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120480521#Comment_120480521

No .

Eoinbmw

Its not a nazi symbol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058292469/an-innocent-reason-to-display-the-iron-cross

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Oh look some Nazi German tanks in Germany 🤦

ollaetta

Strictly speaking it's not a Nazi cross without the swastika in the centre and as NattiO pointed out the Iron Cross dates back at least two hundred years and the symbol endures in the modern German army.

Who knows what your man is into but it reminds me of those biker helmets that you used to see which closely resembled the Second World War German Stalhelm. In fact some of them were modified versions of those helmets. Couldn't wear them now anyway I'd imagine as they wouldn't meet safety standards.

Veering further off topic, from 1957 German veterans of the Second World War were allowed swap out their medals for a modified version without the swastika and to wear them openly at commemorations. The swastika was and remains banned from public display in Germany.

padd b1975

Type hammer and sickle into their search engine.

The Finnish airforce flew with a Blue Swatika as their logo since 1916/17 until recently

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120480669#Comment_120480669

Harlan Crow or Clarence Thomas should be able to tell us right?

Japandamo

Great. Thanks. And really appreciate that you made such an effort to get your point across without being a massive twat about it.

Only ever seen it on SS uniforms in film and history lessons. This thread has eased my mind and been an education. Thank you all.

kowloon

You see loads of german and norse symbols on bikes and heavy metal album covers. Just happens that white supremacist types love it too. Im sure theres plenty of crossover. In the same vein, celtic crosses show up a lot too. I wouldnt worry about it until they start ranting about Soros or jews controlling the media.

Polar101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120480774#Comment_120480774

On the planes, not since 1945. But it's still in use in the air force unit flags.

What you're likely referencing to with "until recently" is the change in 2020 where the swastika was removed from air force insignia.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481172#Comment_120481172

Like Hitler did, it is literally them appropriating the symbols to their own twisted ends. Makes life difficult for people who make innocuous use of them. It let's the supremacist type project like they have way more supporters out there than they really do. Hitler's long dead and his appropriation has people wondering if tyre caps indicate their fellow modern man is a Nazi holdout. It's really quite sinister aftermath. To this day a lot of your more ignorant Christians perceive the intersection of almost any 2 differently lengthed lines as a judeo-christian indicator like Jesus was the first person to come up with a cross.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481381#Comment_120481381

Huh? German and Norse symbols and Celtic crosses on album covers "let's [sic] white supremacists project like they have way more supporters than they really do" - What?!

You post some fairly outlandish claims on here, but that's waaaaaay out there!

Who knew Enya was a secret nazi 🙄

TooTired123

Nazis, Nazis everywhere.

L1011

A load of skateboarder brands used the iron cross in their logos in the early 00s. Don't know if they still do as I'm a tad old to be buying my clothes in skateshops now.

I assumed it was American brands not realising that it could be problematic rather thwn anything else, never bothered checking as I just didn't buy those ones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481407#Comment_120481407

Not suggesting the album or band or the church are supremacists, but supremacists will try to recruit others etc. by propagandizing that the symbol appearing everywhere (like in church, and on band albums) are through tinfoil hat logic, support for their own cause.

Here an OP saw a normal german symbol and his first thought was "Nazi?"

Because of propaganda and cultural appropriation by a hate movement.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481444#Comment_120481444

Jaysus that's about the most paranoid thing I've read on here, and that's saying something.

It's like saying communists will use the proliferation of red cars on the roads to recruit members.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481457#Comment_120481457

Nothing is or was ever stopping them from attempting to do so. You yourself just tacitly associated the color red with communism.

https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/what-your-car-might-say-about-how-you-vote/

It's a fine example you mentioned, one that comes up in US politics frequently, automobiles being so ingrained in the culture now though not specifically color. The Tesla cars for example are politicized (they were 'pussy-liberal' machines, now Trump has setup shop in Texas and done all his Trump/Twitter nonsense so they've started being derided as 'freedumb mobiles' etc.), so are the Prius lineup. Politics are assumed about you by what you drive.

There was also a big-to-do during the 2008 Presidential election about flag lapel pins. Politicians tried to insinuate that anyone who wasn't wearing a United States flag pin is a socialist-commie loving democrat and anyone wearing one was a doing the right thing etc. then from there tried to twist any Democrat seen with the pin (or who was always wearing one) as capitulating to their nonsense.

Do we even need to get on to Red Hats vs. Pink Hats? We're not far removed from a race-war over cone-shaped nipples vs. nippels with ripples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noClMggb9R4

Hell the official color of Breast Cancer Awareness month is Pink. Ireland, on March 17 the color of support is Green the world over, even if you accidentally just wore the green shirt from yesterday again or always owned a green car, someone goes 'aha! green, I don't have to pinch you' etc - the Irish have culturally ingrained people to link the two, the color to the date.

It's clear that once one begins to obsess over something, they see their perceived enemies in every shadow.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481527#Comment_120481527

Precisely! Sometimes a set of Tyre plugs is just a set of tyre plugs. But decades, a century on from the appropriation by eg. the Nazi Party, people are still left wondering if when they see an Iron Cross it might be a Nazi symbol. That's the lasting damage of cultural misappropriation.