But that was the deal Usyk wanted: IF Usyk wins he said 70/30 rematch. Not IF he loses fight 1. He did not ask for 70/30 in the rematch if he loses fight 1
Id be thinking fury doesn't want to look like hes not getting what hearn got for aj. Ego a big part of this too.
They all just have too much money.
Matchroom, Queensbury, Top Rank... all making lots of cash. People forget, these are businesses. They are there to make a profit, not to satisfy fans.
Their top fighters are multi millionaires. The guys coming up want to be millionaires, and will take the path outlined by their promotor. All is good.
The only people losing out in the current climate are the fans. Nothing will change until a) fans start boycotting shitshows like Fury v Chisora, or until there is one global, governing body. And that aint happening any time soon.
People have / are walking away from the port in their droves. It may need to hit rock bottom before anything changes. But look at the Olympics now...long term, sport is fcuked.
Seriously, is it that? Is Fury that absolute ridiculous? I know he has an ego, but I don't think at all it is this.
Simple: it all started with Fury's first very unfair demand of 70-30. Usyk called his bluff and accepted it. Then Fury brought up another obstacle with the rematch. Usyk's team said it weeks ago; it's one thing after another. He doesn't want this fight....and here we are
A side. When it comes to financials, yes.
How sad is that? What about the prestige, the glory, the dream of being the undisputed best in your sport?
Pathetic.
Getting 70-30 for the first fight and it's still not enough? Come on, clearly Fury doesn't want the fight at this time.
It's a pity, it'd be a fascinating fight and both are a cut above the other heavyweights at the moment.
i notice you ignored the first fight.
so, against aj, usyk was a mandatory, no belts, shot at the titles, it just isnt the same situation
do you expect usyk to take 30% in the first fight with 3 belts and the lineal, as a unified world champion then if he becomes undisputed he only gets 50 in the second fight? the 70-30 went both ways btw, fury would of got 70 again if he won the first
If Usyk were to beat Fury he would be going into the rematch as a 2 weight, undefeated, undisputed HW champion! Of course he would deserve the bigger cut. They weren't looking for 70/30 if he gets beaten
Also what is the actual proof that Fury is the bigger draw, any lists I've seen of the top PPV figures in the UK don't feature Fury. The time of the fights with Wilder obviously impact that but then again Mayweather vs Hatton and even Mayweather vs McGregor make the top 10 list before Fury and they were at US PPV times
Frank Warren said the rematch was down to be 50/50 just like the Aj contract
It’s the rematch that seems to have upset the deal
What has AJ got to do with it? Why would anyone bring him into it? People really falling for this baloney....
Fury is dodging Usyk.
The rematch clause by Fury is Fury's way out.
That outburst by Fury is just laughable - he is running scared.
Fury is in a corner and he knows it.
The rematch clause is his way out, and according to Usyk's team it was not just that. Fury was ready to offer up more silly obstacles.
It must have sickened Fury when Usyk agreed to Fury's first obstacle, the 70-30. He had to then bring up the rematch
Damn shame. Probably one fight that I wanted to see more than any other.
They should have done this
All that stuff was negotiated before fury demanded 70-30 in the first fight (asked for by warren initially)
You are not wrong there bud.
Can I ask - is the fact that it is not in Saudi Arabia a spanner in the works ??????
fury dodging usyk
give me strength
he might be a pain in the hole to negotiate with and over playing his hand, but in what world is he dodging Usyk.
Let's all be honest here, Fury's bottled it. Is he lining up another Chisora rematch instead? 😂
Dont think anybody is arguing who is the bigger draw. Its fury and would be for rematch too. How many ppv buys will come from ukraine or usyk fans. Fury is the draw regardless of what happens in the first fight. I thought 60:40 would be fairer split for first fight but fury is a tough negotiator, hes not scared, dont believe that for a second.
Nope as i said 60:40 would have been fair. Usyk was foolish to accept 70:30. rematch if uslk won 50:50 would be fair. Fury is the draw, most likely selling out wembley due to him even walshb would agree fury is the draw.
Usyk accepted because he wanted the fight, he wanted it for his people and the fans, fury would sell all his fan boys for a button and they would continue to say he got a good deal.
Heaps folks think he is. Why do you think he couldn’t be? Do boxers never dodge a fight?
These two lads will sell big big numbers no matter what the split is. Folks need to take their heads out their arses. This is not Fury fudging because he thinks he’s “the draw.” He’s dodging because he just doesn’t fancy this match.
FFS, he has got his 70/30 fight one. He could eff off and retire and not even do a rematch if he felt like it after fight 1. It’s as plain as the nose on your face. For this fight, Fury has acted purely to not fight. He doesn’t want it.
and I don’t think he is scared, btw. I am with Macklin on this one. He sees Usyk’s style as a problem. And the more I study both, I think Usyk is a problem.
Looking in control and nimble against two fooking plodders like Chisora and Whyte, and beating quite an average boxer (plenty think Wilder is an awful boxer) in Wilder is not what Fury can expect against Usyk.
Did you not predict wilder to win against fury?. Lets not talk resume with fury, hes beaten the best of his era so far. He needs usyk i agree to claim undisputed of his era.
Yes, I predicted in fight 1 that Wilder would knock him out. Wilder had, up to that point knocked out every boxer he had faced: And this prediction doesn’t preclude Wilder from being perceived as a terrible boxer by plenty.
I also don't think Fury is "scared" of Usyk, at least not physially, but stylistically speaking Usyk is definately a problem for Fury and he knows it, it's without a doubt not as safe as say Chisora and Whyte or even Wilder, Wilder was more dangerous because of the power, but he had literally nothing else to offer, Usyk is tricky, awkward and knows his ring craft, I think Fury knows this, I think he's avoiding it because he sees it as a potential bananna skin, which it is.
Exactly how I see it
Which will come as a surprise to absolutely no one
I agree.
He is a chancer.
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