We have moved from whataboutery to ad hominem attacks.
A masterclass of debate on display here today folks...
This is interesting
Not sure Id agree with it but he does have some valid points
The former president told Sean Hannity’s radio show: “Don’t forget, under Bush they take over Georgia, under Obama they took over Crimea. And, under Biden, they’re taking over everything. It looks like they’re going to take over everything, the whole thing, they’re going to go for the whole enchilada, they’re going for everything, that’s what it looks like to me.
“And, under Trump, you know what they took over? They took nothing, Russia. First time, first president in a long time. He [Putin] understood. He would have never done it.”
Mr Trump added: “That’s without even negotiating a deal. I could have negotiated. At worst, I could have made a deal to take over something, you know, there are certain areas that are Russian speaking areas, right, like, but you could have worked a deal. And now Ukraine is just being blown to smithereens.”
The former president said: “So many more people are dying than recorded and that’s something that never would have happened.”
If it's that easy, you can summarize it again.
You stated Jan 6th and BLM protests were essentially the same thing.
I listed bullet points that showed that they were not. Which bullet points were false?
Indeed we have, but from whom ?
Deny dodge deflect to something else or are you all out of deflection
Literal whataboutery.... If you looked up a dictionary, you would not find a better example.
You also don't agree with facts, though. Your disagreement means nothing, we've seen what you agree with.
Then you clearly didn't read the article again. Bad faith arguments again.
From you.
More winning for DJT...
More winning
"Trump claims violence he inspired on Jan. 6 was Pence’s fault"
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Of course he does. Between this and the combo rant on Truther today, another few corks have popped from TFG
(https://archive.ph/l5qpt)
Standard bully/abuser logic. "If you had just given me what I wanted I wouldn't have had to hurt you". In this case, if Pence had just been willing to override the election for Trump he wouldn't have had to incite the 6 January insurrection.
In Trump's tiny little brain nothing is ever his fault.
Of course he leaves out his cowardly withdrawal from Syria and setting in motion the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
The guy is a total human cesspit who cares about absolutely nothing (certainly not Ukraine!) apart from self aggrandisement.
What's more amazing is Pence talking about how Trump's comments and actions put him and his family in danger and that history would hold him accountable... having refused to engage with or comply with requests from the Jan 6th committee.
He's got to walk the tightrope. He wants to be President, so he can't cooperate with an investigation into a fellow Republican. But he wants to hurt Trump's chances in the primaries, so he is happy to lay the blame at Trump's feet. Kind of like the mob. They'll happily go after each other, but everyone will turn on anyone that goes to the cops.
Wow.
I wonder will people here stop quoting Mr Carlson, now they know what his producer thinks of them
They think Jan 6 insurrection attempt was a tour... they think qanon shaman was getting a guided tour!!!! Look at their posts on this very site.
These people are deluded. So this (and everything else) means NOTHING to them.
I still believe that that Carlson video is part of his "only-idiots-would-believe-this" defense.
You know, the one he used before.... if his deluded trumpette cult members didn't cop on then, why would they now. They BELIEVE him when even his own people don't. That's how far down the rabbit hole they are. They believe there was no insurrection attempt despite the world watching it LIVE.
The Carlson propaganda is a load of old bollocks.
What happened was security led these dickheads away from sensitive areas. They did their job by de-escalating an already ridiculous situation.
There was no "tour".
Hmm how does it go when we post tweets or articles you guys don't like oh yeah I'll do my version "Can you post a legitimate mainstream source rather then some far left blogger's opinion piece?"
Poor Marcy Wheeler bought into the whole Russia interference conspiracy theory in the 2016 election. Such a stand out lady she gave up her FBI source.
Unfortunately she.seems to be living here in Ireland as well.
Do as we say not do as we do Snake.
Tweets and posts from self proclaimed "entertainment" sources that any "reasonable people" wouldn't take seriously don't mean shit. Some may want to lap it up, but c'est le vie.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Glad you agree with us.
If you think that's agreement, you're sorely mistaken. But you keep reposting, there's a good boy. 😉
So, I post an article and you have a problem with the author.
Fair enough.
Here are excerpts from the article has the documents handed over by fox in the law suit.
Here is the article.
Now that I have proved the documents exist and that the content is exact....
Do you want to go ahead and address the facts?
Again, you've dodged the trump Russian finances question, you could set a clock by you that you're so regular
Well, well, as long as we're asking about TFG Russian finances, it seems like the bulk of the money at the heart of the "SPAC' that was created to drive "Truth Social", came from a shady character from Russia whose relatives have ties to Putin.
And it's being investigated, of course.
I liked this line from the article (emphasis mine):
"Even if Trump Media and its officers face no criminal exposure for the transactions, the optics of borrowing money from potentially unsavory sources through opaque conduits could cloud Trump’s image as he seeks to recapture the White House in 2024."
The Guardian left out 'even more' after 'cloud.'
Also, this set of shenanigans all took place after Biden became POTUS, so no exec privilege/presidential get-out-of-free. All done while TFG was a private citizen.
The article mentions an exec fired after filing whistleblower complaints about Truth Social. Hard to keep up with Trumpworld. Apparently he was strong-armed into giving shares to Melania, woot. Lots and lots in the WaPo article about the routing of dirty money to TrumpWorld. Amusingly, TFG's footsoldiers in all this were ex-contestants on the Apprentice. Goes to show the old adage: First rate people hire first rate people, Second rate people hire fourth rate people.
(https://archive.is/3PYLm)
No you don't get it, @MisterAnarchy says there's no link between trump and Russian money so there definitely isn't, despite what court convictions or journalists say
Or the Republicans own senate commitee https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-panel-finds-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election
If in 2023 you are still saying Russia played no part in 2016 election your daily newscycle is probably only Jordan Peterson, Nigel Farage and Truth Social
Did someone's twitter account get hacked?
Think Anonymous came out and said that they had hacked his account.
Carlson's producer has called you "Dumb ... Cousin-**** ... Terrorists", do you think you'll be posting or believing what tucker says from now on?
Well..... I mean at this stage I think it's pretty pointless "debating". Their hand is shown. They don't believe that Jan 6 attack happened. They don't believe we watched a (failed) insurrection attempt live... They believe that these people were being given guided tours for God's sake!!!
It's only a matter of time before they start denying the other actions of trump and his cohorts: No, he never made a call attempting to overthrow the results in Georgia. No he never told white supremacist groups to stand by. No he never insinuated violence against his political rival. Yes they were able to PROVE the voting machines were rigged. Yes they were able to PROVE there was massive Dem voter fraud... Remember this: These are 100% proven LIES!
They are trying to deny what we saw on TV LIVE!!! they are trying to say this did not happen. This is why they trot out the comments like "Why are people so obsessed?" or "Jeez, just move on". It's important to remember what happened. Because it WILL happen again. There WILL be violence the next time the GQP lose an election. Even if they win in 2024, if they lose in 2028 or 2032 or whenever, it's important to remember that the last time they lost, they attempted an insurrection. They attempted to overthrow an election. They attempted to storm capitol building and attempted to reach their political opponents... including members of the GOP.
It is important to remember that THIS. IS FACT!. not OPINION. We WATCHED it happen.
FACT
UNDENIABLE, LIVE-STREAMED FACT. Make no mistake: Any attempt to deny this happened is not misinterpretation or misrepresentation or (That trump favourite) Alternative Fact.
It is a deliberate, intentional LIE
They will say that anyone who states these as FACTS means they are "triggered". But remember, if you reply: You are "Triggered". If you don't: You are "owned".
TLDR: Jan 6 was NOT a tour. Simple as!
