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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Funny how the Russian apologists use terms like "NATO will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian" whenever the West give Ukraine weapons or ammo to defend themselves from the illegal invaders.

    Yet you never hear them say "Iran will fight Ukraine to the last Russian" when shipments like this happen 🤷‍♂️



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    More than likely they will be transferred as they are,

    The Russians used to service Nato mig29 for a few years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    How are we supposed to take your claims or analysis seriously when you've come out with absolute clangers like this:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Earlier this morning Russia’s Defense Minister Shoigu made a statement about todays Large-Scale Missile Attack against Ukraine, “In response to Terrorist Attacks in the Bryansk region, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation delivered a Massive Retaliation Strike.”

    So Bryansk was the excuse but it took them a week to reply with missles targeting civilian infrastructure and ignoring the Ukrainian military again .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,395 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Nice action by loitering drones in Ukr (guessing the Switchblade 600's?)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Belarus again,how many times have we heard claims of false flags being prepared so they can enter the war .





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,016 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    So having to remove the upgrades makes them pointless, given how long that will take. Not to mention them being just more of the same and not better.

    Anyway, as I said, I'm basically just relaying what Ukrainians themselves have said and I have managed to find what I previously read, so since I am not to be believed, then perhaps the spokesman of the Ukrainian Airforcce can persuade people:

    01.03.23

    The representative of the command of the Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuri Ignat Yuri Ignat notes that technology plays an important role in the war. That is why Ukraine really needs F-16 fighters.

    He said this on the air of the national telethon "Unified News".

    Ignat notes that the F-16 has passed the stages of deep modernization, and therefore can withstand the enemy in the air at the level and deliver high-precision long-range strikes. Unfortunately, Soviet equipment cannot do this, but Ukrainian pilots "squeeze everything possible."

    "Our MiG-29 against the Russian Su-30 aircraft is the same that we will sit in a trench with one Makarov pistol, and they with three machine guns or machine guns. Theoretically, we will try to resist them, but it is clear that the number of weapons, and most importantly - technology play a decisive role, so we need F-16 aircraft that can really play an advantage in the air and allow us to quickly de-occupy our territories, "the representative of the Air Force said.

    According to him, the F-16 aircraft is universal and multi-purpose, and therefore can be part of air defense. In addition, the fighter can deliver missile and bomb strikes at a great distance.

    "An aircraft where there is no air defense and anti-aircraft weapons can block those areas and destroy air targets. This practice is used all over the world. In particular, this aircraft has a wide range of weapons of everything that NATO countries use. It can be the carrier of such missiles as "Harpoon", which are designed to destroy surface targets. Therefore, order can be quickly restored in our sea," said Yuri Ignat.

    Transfer of the F-16 to Ukraine

    On February 24, US President Joe Biden ruled out the possibility of transferring American F-16 fighters to Ukraine, saying that they were "not needed now."

    Democratic Congressman Adam Smith notes that the transfer of F-16 fighters to Ukraine would be a "stupid use of resources." After all, in the best case, the United States would be able to deliver only a few such aircraft within a year.

    In turn, the chairman of the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the US House of Representatives, Michael McCaul, says that the F-16 may appear in Ukraine at a "decisive and turning point" of the war.

    Meanwhile, CNN, citing its own sources, reported that the United States will not block the supply of F-16 fighters to Ukraine by allied countries, if they make such a decision. Washington is allegedly not against this from international partners.

    While he and Ukraine go on about the F-16, I think that is because they are aiming low in the hope they might stand a better chance of at least getting something. I am confident that if they were offered F-18s or F-15Cs, they would prefer those.

    The same person in another article described the problems the F-16 would pose, namely their rough, Foreign Object Damage prone airfilds and delicate landing gear. The undercarriage of the F-16 is too delicate for Ukrainian airfields. To use them they would need to surface at least one airfield with smooth bitumen. If they got F-18's or Grippens, they wouldn't need to undertake this huge task and they could use all their airfields, not just the upgraded one, which would probably become a prime target.

    Given The US wouldn't object to F-16s being transfered, there's a good chance the same would apply if Australia were to ask to transfer it's 40-45 surplus F-18s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 James Heappey


    Projection THE post, step away from the BBC and Sky News.

    In Odessa the horrors of mobilization continue … Bakhmut needs more soldiers for 4 hours .,.

    twitter. com/mylordbebo/status/1633599636119199748

    To remain ignorant when all the facts are available is sinful and yet board is willfully ignorant, speaks volumes for the moral compass of posters here that are pro Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    Bakhmut needs more soldiers for 4 hours

    That's efficient!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭Wolf359f




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Has anyone seen the Irish lad all over social media and news sites spouting all sorts of Russian propaganda?

    Think he’s married to a Russian.

    His latest stunt is to stand on the halfpenny bridge and shout Russia Slava and post it on TikTok.

    Hes probably our mutual friend that does be on here.

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  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You just joined to tell me that old news,Igor,impressive

    Is this your fifth or sixt profile?

    You never get tired of making new profiles for Prigozhin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,016 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Another one...

    Ukraine recently asked for volunteers for a high risk assault force. They got 20,000 applications. Another unit they were forming got 8,000 applications. They concluded their recent mobilisation effort on 2 days.

    Horrors of mobilisation - what a laugh. Sure there are people who try to avoid it, but that applies in all countries, just ask Mr bone spurs Trump and Mr George Bush, I'm in the National Guard, you can't take me...



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The best part is that they had the guts to say its a few isolated cases,i wonder how many cases like this you havent seen in Russia and the seperatists states in Ukraine with forced mobilization.

    Even before and in world war 2,people who tried to get away from the draft wasnt very popular amongst their fellow soldiers.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 5,611 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rawr


    Well, I’m thinking it’s either he get’s cracking as a Cyber «Musician» or he’ll promptly get demoted to regular Wagner «Musician», handed his piss-poor / rotting Soviet surplus gear and get bussed down to his next perfomance near Bakmut…where I hear the locals give skaving reviews :P



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He will be playing a different tune then,for sure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Some people have nothing to do and all day to do it.



  • Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭ Willow Fat Neckerchief


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    I think you're the last person to be harping on about morality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    How's many accounts are you running



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,213 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Sleepy, I can assure you that I do not support terrorist regimes with my recreational travel either. Far from it. I presume that you are speaking about a grass-roots style popular rebellion? Irish Rebellion type? Not going to happen in Russia unfortunately, I've explained to you what Putin has done and will do again when or if large crowds gather in Russian cities to protest, never mind if they appear to be actually carrying weapons. Should a crowd appear with weapons, the streets would run red with their blood. Putin signed a presidential decree in 2016 creating a new National Guard, whose specific mandate was first, to protect the President ( Putin) and second was dealing with internal public order. ( Translation: Protests ) These troops will not be going anywhere near Ukraine, or any place else either. There are approximately 450'000 troops in the Guard, and they are completely separate from the Russian Army, are best paid and equipped and sworn to loyalty to Putin, and they are under his complete control. So to get to Putin, rebels will have to deal with the National Guard first,

    The only one's who could realistically rebel ( as you put it) would have to be a branch of the military, who could plan and execute a military style coup in the Kremlin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    China receiving enriched uranium from the Russians , this isn't great news some will say it's for energy production,but I think even the unwashed will know it's going into weapons,




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,222 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Either the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, Iran's shipment took a week, or the Ruscists really were caught on the hop by a Ukrainian attack and they needed that week to prepare their strike.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I'm siding with the Iran shipment was late or later than expected.the whole Russian military is disjointed and playing different tunes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    They're like incoming missiles, for Beasty in the air defence to deal with.

    Please excuse the comparison to the real horror show being perpetuated by Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    What was on the Iranian shipment that was fired into Ukraine? 8 drones.... That are usually flown into Russia. I don't think the Iranian shipment of weapons had any bearing on the timing of the latest mass missile attack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭maebee




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If China has their eye on Siberia, I should think they'd be as well not to take it over as such, but continue the current trends of Chinese populations establishing a greater presence there and buying up land to farm and exploit natural resources on. It would achieve much the same kind of thing for China without playing a potentially world-ending game of chicken.



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