The government are currently investigating increased parking, congestion charges and speed limit reductions in order to help the country meet its climate goals. Looks like a split in the coalition is emerging over the proposals, which are likely to be deeply unpopular. Do you see anything of the proposed that could be considered politically palatable?
Well why do people in Donegal keep voting for the same muppets who have zero interest in public transport? Anyway these measures wouldn't affect places like Donegal.
I'll take that as a no then.
everything's always coming down the line has been for decades at this point.
I could only a get one bus from donegal town to letterkenny on a Sunday morning. so much for that idea.
I voted for this as did many others and im not from southside. Lots of people want less cars in cities. Pretty much only one demographic is represented on boards.ie nowadays so it's not a great barometer.
Yeah, but last I checked most of them don't have anything for those of us that work in Dublin county but live in a different county. I drive in currently because taking any of the transit options would more than double my commute time and cost a lot more even with the current high diesel prices. For public transit to be used it has to be either more convenient or cheaper, preferably both. Currently for me at least it is neither.
You understand nobody voted for this bar a handful of leafy South Dublin well to do urbanites.
These policies effect everyone. Nobody wants this.
No mandate
You understand how constituencies work? And ministerial positions?
Nobody voted for this.
Well 93% didn't.
Usual guff from the Greens, we can blame the Avocado munchers in Ranelagh for this one...
Sleepy Eamonn is trying his best to limit air travel too by having one of his chiefs of staff tell one of their many special advisors to send some Memo's instead of actually fixing the issues...
What's your point? There are of course going to be exceptions. Not every measure is going to work for 100% of people 100% of the time. The idea is to target those journeys that can be easily made by alternative means.
I like the idea in cities that have some sort of modern transport system. But in Dublin there is no underground, no Uber, and the buses are unreliable. And even worse their realtime position is worse than it was about 7 years ago.
At least allow us a sort of second tier taxi service like Uber which is available when the licensed taxi drivers are all busy. It's a basic update to the apps that are there at the moment - First check for availability among all the primary taxi drivers with taxi licences, and if no one is there, check for lift sharing drivers.
The licensed guys can't complain about that because they're getting first dibs.
Lots of rail and bus improvements coming down the line, also metro gone for planning permission but that's still years away. I doubt they'll drop all these new measures upon us at once though.
Absolutely but stuff like this just causes backlash when you see the likes of Metro, Navan rail, Cork Luas etc. are all at least a decade away and more from delivery. The real urgency to deliver big public transport infrastructure simply isn't there in this country.
Could we get a sticky put up on the homepage for people who don't seem to understand our system of government and how coalitions work etc? It's genuinely a serious issue as it comes up regularly. Not enough is taught in schools about this stuff clearly.
The problem is that their policy approach is all stick and no carrot.
Of course less cars in the city centre is a good thing , of course less emissions are a good thing but it can't all be penalties and increased charges.
The vast majority of the focus should be on creating viable alternatives - In fact it should be 100% focused on alternatives.
If there are public transport alternatives to use , people just end up having to pay more to use the only viable option they have. It won't stop them using the car if there aren't any busses/trains available
Have the greens never read Aesops fables?
Congestion charges are usually just certain zones during certain hours, if you're leaving late it's unlikely you'd need to pay anything.
Hopefully this can reduce some of the mess in our urban areas which are completely dominated by car traffic and cars dumped everywhere. Wont be popular decisions but this is why having Greens in government from time to time is a good thing, they'll push for unpopular decisions that are better for all down the line. People really shouldn't be driving into city centres in this day and age.
Less than 7% of the population voted for the greens. They have no mandate.
So much for democracy
I was in for a gastroscopy yesterday , general hospital 45 mind drive away . I could have got a bus there for a midday appointment would have got me there at 9.30am.
also the appointment specifically said don't go home on public transport ......
Do you see anything of the proposed that could be considered politically palatable?
Nope, nothing.
Say one thing though - the thread title is doing some impressive mileage! 😳
heres a wild idea
Instead of bankrupting people for using their fcuking cars why don’t they make it more feasible for people outside Dublin to use public transport to travel to work etc?
i used to take the bus, problem is if I finish after 8:30pm (every shift i finish at earliest 10pm) I can’t get home on the bus before 1:30am.
But yeah I’m the fcuking problem. Sure I will just quit work and go on the dole, that’s what they want then I guess? Cos I’m starting to lose the will to live at this stage.
Work 70 odd hours a week to have money sucked out of me wallet left and right between tax on the wage + the car, paying for the fuel (with tax), paying for parking (about to go up apparently) and then the ridiculous grocery bills and massive ESB lately.
But yea I’ve been saying for weeks now I need more money taken out of my wallet cos I generally have a few pound spare and heaven forbid I try to save that or buy something nice.
Can we get a functioning public transport system so? Getting a bus these days is a gamble on when/if it will show up, and that's the only public transport available near my house.
Why can't we just buy enough carbon credits off of other countries to meet our targets ?
I drive an EV, can I go 20km/h faster than everyone else?
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