You've raised a very good point.
To be fair to him, Putin probably only seeks to annihilate those who wish neither to be conquered or subjugated.
Thank you.
1K would be 5/vehicle this would allow 1K squad leaders to be trained and 1k mechanics
Don't be ridiculous, by the time Ukraine is finished with these tanks, they will be in as good a nick as this car they used to transport troops in and around Bhakmut
Fat chance. My bet is that Switzerland won't either and that the bill will be squashed.
Riniker has called for the Leopard tanks to be formally decommissioned, and then sold for as little as one symbolic franc to Switzerland’s eastern neighbors, on condition that those tanks never actually then get re-exported to Ukraine. Switzerland doesn’t need all the tanks, she says, and even though her proposal was voted down on its first reading last week, she is keen to push the idea to a vote again this spring.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/bloomberg/tank-for-a-franc--swiss-weigh-fire-sale-of-arms-over-debate-on-how-to-help-ukraine/48252968
Lets not compare our inflated GDP to Denmarks, we have about half of their economic output when you remove the impact of multinationals operating here or funneling money through. The outputs/inputs of multinationals that impact GDP do not translate to equal input for Government spending, so GDP is a worthless measurement to compare these two countries.
If you look at Government revenue for 2020, Denmark had twice as much tax intake than Ireland. Witht that in mind, along with the fact that they half the national debt we do, it isn't surprising that they can afford to offer more. We've also sent well more than €9m in aid to Ukraine directly, sure we're spending more than that on the fallout from the war elsewhere.
They really can't help themselves,can they!🙄
Nice one, Biden, provide Ukraine everything it needs to win the war, eh?
Biden: US will support Ukraine ‘as long as it takes’ to win war
Biden instructed the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) William Burns to visit Kyiv and Moscow to find out the readiness of the parties for peace talks.In Moscow, Burns allegedly offered representatives of the Russian leadership negotiations in the format "land in exchange for peace."
This means that Russia would have to stop hostilities, for which it would receive about 20% of the territory of Ukraine. This roughly corresponds to the territories of the Luhansk and Donetsk Regions.
During a visit to Kyiv, Burns offered the Ukrainian authorities "peace in exchange for land."
According to the publication, both Kyiv and Moscow rejected the offer made by Burns.
https://ukranews.com/en/news/912729-before-providing-the-tanks-united-states-checks-ukraine-s-readiness-stop-resistance-and-sign-peace
Why not offer the Orcs Alaska, for peace, I'm sure they would jump at the chance. Real big of you to offer the Orcs 20% of Ukraine. Why not offer tham New Zealands South Island and Tasmania while you are at it. Can they keep the 14,000 children they kidnapped too? The ones used to amuse all their pedophiles and keep them happy?
Ukraine didn't settle for it then and it won't now. Whatever about Crimea permanently losing Melitopol, Berdyansk, Donetsk and Luhansk is a no go. These are Ukrainian cities through and through.
Even if he let's the rest of Ukraine join NATO and the EU, Russia will lick their wounds and go after another neighbor in a few years. Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia who knows. There will never be a better time to defeat Russia then now.
Leave off. I'm happy to use GNI if you like.
Ireland just had the largest budget surplus in the EU - €5.2 billion. €9 million in direct aid is utterly pathetic by any metric - it's 0.17% of that surplus, let alone GNI.
Both the Kremlin and Whitehouse dismiss what the Swiss newspaper reported.
Be interesting if Kyiv comments on it.
People get so roiled up on unverified claims lately.
Getting to be a bit of a habit around here
But yet we've set aside 3 billion to help Ukrainians here ,
So it's not just 9 million
You're probably right.
You could also spin it the other way... people saying yadda yadda yadda peace talks, war bad can now be put back in their box. Russia not interested. We fight on.
@Manic Moran on the numbers if you had 5000 men /women trained on the Bradleys,
How you you organise the numbers between crews and maintainers
GNI* would be preferable, GNI doesn't fully remove the impact of MNC's and for the sake of your comparison with Denmark, it would make sense to remove this factor. National income accounting to one side, Denmark's government still have a larger pot for spending than we do at the end of the day.
Again, where are you getting this €9 million in aid to Ukraine figure, are you ignoring the contributions through the EDF and the humanitarian funding through Irish Aid?
You know it's bad when even the Kremlin denies it
I'm reading €75 million via Irish Aid.
€55 million in non-lethal military supplies.
Also...
Ireland has provided 20 million euros ($21.6 million) in humanitarian aid to the country and Ukrainian refugees in neighboring counties
Plus of every €500 million contributed by the EU, Ireland is contributing €11 million of that, under the EPF.
If I recall this happened in Jan prior to the invasion, I believe it was the Russians who asked for around 20% of Ukr territory, to which Zelensky said "Yeah no".
Sean Davett, the deputy spokesperson at White House's National Security Council, told Newsweek that the report from NZZ is "not accurate," and that the CIA would say the same.
He didn't say the meeting didn't happen, he said the report was not accurate.
I am sure there are discussions going on behind the scenes on how to end this war.
Think the decision will be made very soon in Switzerland,hopefully Austria will reconsider as well
I never said the meeting didn't happen. It was all over the media at the time. There was nothing 'secret' about the CIA director going to Kyiv or Moscow. That was well reported and acknowledged afterwards.
The Swiss newspaper report of what the meeting was about has been denied by both the Whitehouse and Kremlin. The Whitehouse or Kremlin never denied a meeting took place.
I just can't dumb it down anymore.
My bad, obviously a CIA director would never be sent instead of a state department representative. What was i thinking?
MOSCOW — William J. Burns, the C.I.A. director, met with a top adviser to President Vladimir V. Putin in Moscow on Tuesday, leading a delegation of American officials on a two-day visit to the Russian capital that served as the latest evidence of heightened engagement between two global adversaries.
Mr. Burns was traveling at President Biden’s request, the American Embassy in Moscow said in a statement. The surprise visit was something of a merger of Mr. Burns’s current role as intelligence chief and his past jobs as a senior American diplomat and state department official.
88 is the number they went with haha. Russian conspiracy nuts will have a sh*t fit haha. Who said Germans can't have a sense of humour.
So another coldish spell hitting Bakhmut area soon. Around -8. Nothing major but will effect any remaining mobilised prisoners thrown at them. Would a deep freeze of -20 suit Ukraine or Russia more at this stage?
Probably Russia as they could launch an armoured attack.
We've not seen much Russian armor in the area ,seen a few bmp and solo tanks destroyed,it seems most of the fighting is being done on foot , which explains the high casualties rate on the Russian side,but we're seeing an increase in Ukrainan amor and heavy artillery arriving over the last few days
I was mistaken about Ireland's total contributions, they appear to be €69m Wikipedia has the wrong figure.
However, it doesn't really alter the gist. Denmark's GNI was only 6.4% higher than Ireland's in 2021, not some huge amount you are guessing at.
Denmark has given Ukraine €641m and ranks 11th as a donor, whereas Irelands €69m places it 28th. Accounting for the difference in GNI, Ireland would have to give €603m to match Denmark's generosity.
Difficult to tell, I think it suits Ukraine as they seem to be better organised in terms of cold winter gear, whereas the Russians seem to be getting drunk and stabbing each other in fights over sleeping bags.
Why does it suddenly Matter who sends what, Denmark doesn't have a massive housing Shortage or health services in crisis,cost of living issues and high rents ,
Silly stuff really
The story sound like made up nonsense. One wonders if the Russians themselves are behind it - some sort of an underhanded attempt to drive a wedge between Ukraine and the West.
Disgraceful that a Swiss paper published it, the editors should have guessed there was something very dodgy about the claims being made.
It's plausible, just seems a bit misconstrued.
My reading of it is that Russia were threatening war on Ukraine in the lead-up and in January '22 the US sent a representative to see if talks could solve it, the Russians and Ukrainians were approached, the Russians wanted 20% of Ukraine, Zelensky said no. That's it.
Comes across like it's been twisted by some quarters to make it appear the US wanted to give away 20% of Ukraine to "appease" Putin.
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