One is asymmetric warfare the other isn't. Next!
I can believe that. But what are the latest objective assessment of Ukrainian losses from the same people?
Perhaps they would have with a legitimate Ukrainian government, that all changed with Euromaiden of course.
Exactly. Russia hasn't abided by Budapest or Minsk. It hasn't withdrawn forces from Transnistra 20 years later.
If Ukraine has to give up any territory, then NATO membership is a must or else Russia will just come back for more. It will not be any kind of real peace, just a truce until the next round.
They don't know. All their time and effort is going into monitoring the Russian side.
Why would they waste time and effort trying to figure out Ukrainian losses when they can just ask Ukraine.
Oh I see .
It's all the CiAs fault ?
Because the Ukrainian figures are not reliable. 13000 so far, according to their version? Only an idiot would believe that.
Cui bono? It certainly hasn't been Ukraine has it?
All these posters have the same idea ukraine gives up it's sovereign territory and be banned from joining nato,
But what's Russian giving in return
Conspiracy theories 101
Speaking of Transnistra, would now be an opportune time for Moldova to assert its ownership of the region if it wished to?
Moldova may not be in a great place militarily, but Russia won't be able to oppose any moves in the short term.
They have a legitimate Ukrainian government. Democratically elected.
As opposed to a Russian stooge without a mandate.
"Both sides", "the world isn't fair", and other generic mental gymnastics to make excuses for Putin's invasion
Crimea was annexed by Russia. Donbas was taken by force by Russia. Neither had a choice.
Mask slipping a lot.
That was up to the end of November, the same period the Russians lost 90,000.
So a ratio of 1:7
Seems quite high, but if you factor in the Russians are fighting with conscripts and prisoners vs a trained army. The fact equipment losses are running at 1:4 and we've seen and heard reports of Russian injured being left for dead. We've heard reports of literally cannon fodder waves being used around Bakhmut. We've also seen quite a few ammo dumps and NY Eve parties going boom!
I'd also be pretty confident an injured Russian soldier is highly more likely to die from his injuries than an Ukrainian one.
Do I know the exact figures? No.
Do I really believe that the losses are equal on both sides? Hell no, the visually confirmed equipment losses is the most compelling reason why.
What mask? I have consistently posted for over 6 months, maybe even longer that what I would like to see is a negotiated peace deal to end the war. As opposed to HUR DURR MORE DEAD ORCS HIMARS level of stuff here.
People aren't be realistic here - it doesn't matter what you think is fair. It's not. Poland got run over many times because of where it is, unfortunately for Ukraine it's in a bad spot and all it can do is play it's hand the best in it's position. Clearly it has not. Russia may be acting like a homicidal maniac in your eyes but they have to be listened to because of their big **** off stick - it's the same with the US, China and probably India to be fair to them.
Russia annexed, attacked and then invaded a country which is no threat to it whatsoever. You're trying to justify that with all this limp-wristed crap we've seen countless times in here from Putin supporters and anti-Western whataboutists.
I don't particuraly like the Russian regime, they are bunch of sick twisted elitist murderers too but I really hate the hypocrisy of the western "democratic" ones.
Let's say my mask did slip, like many here who are clearly bloodthirsty - but I'd be much more happy than a bunch of gormless and innocent soldiers and civilians being killed I'd be happy to see a small bunch of elites around the world, including in Russia eviscerated.
Exceptionalism defenders piss me off too.
I'm coming round to your house tonight with a hammer and butchers knife and you're going to give me your living room, Kitchen and master bedroom to do with as I please. And you're going to sign an agreement that you'll never ask for them back or seek help from me taking more in future.
Lots wouldn't like it buy hey, you don't want to live the alternative and you can ignore might.
"US/UK invaded Iraq 20 years ago, therefore US/UK is hypocrite for being against an invasion now" is always the subtext to every one of these spiels.
If Ukraine arent in NATO Russia can just return when ready with an even bigger stick.
It wont be a peace just a temporary truce.
Russia has already broken the Budapest agreement multiple times. Without Ukraine in NATO they will just do the same again to any new treaty.
But yet you make no mention or what suggestions Russia has to give up in Ukraine,
So far we got ukraine gives up the east and Crimea and be banned from entering Nato .
So what's Putin doing other than celebrating with your plan ?
The simplification of a nations complex history and wildly different administrations down into a single "personality" - Russian State TV and "independent thinkers" the world over
Japan only know russia as incompetent losers, the russians thought them that.
What exactly changed.?They got rid of a corrupt president thats wanted for treason for supporting the seperatists in Donetsk and Luhansk and sits in exile in Russia,and replaced him with a democratic elected.
What did you miss
Whenever I see "Putin is bad but". I always know what's coming after the 'but'.
Or I hate Putin and some other waffle in sigs but all pro russian posts ,
Somehow I see business being brisk for this
There is very little about this war that is 21st century. It's mainly an artillery slugfest.
Of course men alone won't be enough for Russia, they will need to equip them. Can they do that? Unknown.
To the people saying that Russia can't sustain this - why not?
In 1939 Germany produced 380 tanks. In 1940 they produced 1900 tanks. By 1944 they managed to produce 19,000 tanks even though their factories/cities were been bombed on a scale that is hard imagine.
In wartime many things suffer but the production of military hardware isn't one of them.
Will Russia turn into a wartime economy? If Putin gets his way then yes. Will the west? Highly unlikely.
That isn't to say that Ukraine can't win but people are very naive to think that a long war will automatically mean a defeat for Russia.
Well this year they lost 60/70 % of all of their tanks,
How many have they replaced
Apart from drones, ATGMs, HIMARS, satellite mapping, GPS and laser guided weapons, it's just like WW1 :) Jokes aside, indeed it's developed into a stalemate and trench conditions, but the capacity is also there for sudden movements. On both sides.
They are down into prisoners and mercenaries less than a year in, not a great sign. They are pulling older and older tanks out of cold storage and having to refit all the stuff that's been stolen off them. There are unscrewing nukes off Cold War missiles and relying on Iranian drones because they are "totally not" running low on advanced, guided, missiles. Sanctions are making it trickier for them to source complex components for their more advanced military equipment, or even simple stuff, like the special rubber from their tank tracks (which is made in the US). Speaking of sanctions, their economy is squeezed and their energy revenue, which funds the war, is dropping. In a country with a GDP half the size of the state of California.
Indeed they can keep going for a long time, they have production, they can conscript more - but there are some pretty serious cracks showing already
Also, I wouldn't really compare Putin's "special military operation" to Germany's invasion of the continent in WW2, for one, German soldiers didn't have to lug back toilets and secondly, they didn't get bogged down in Poland and have to retreat two months in.
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