It does the heart good to see some of these folks getting hauled before the courts.
Utterly bonkers defense from this lad
Anyone know of others?
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My partner needed to carry a special cert to move around during covid as a health care worker try again. It was dispensation to break the rules for covid. What freeman nonsense. We have laws Point to where the covid HSE cert was legal and a requirement. Golf gate even proved my point they went on about presenting covid certs to attend the dinner.
What on earth are you on about. We were discussing vaccine certificates.
What was the point of the cert if it was only used for international travel. Maybe I'm mistaken it was a requirements for entry into venues and alike. What about those asked at checkpoints traveling outside their area.
Nobody on the thread has a clue what you are going on about you are gish galloping all over the place.
It never got to the courts and fell afoul of human rights legislation
What human rights were affected?
My cert gives all my information For some random to look at.
Name.
date given.
Where you got it.
What vaccine and when it was given.
Even down to time given.
The only people who would see that information are those that you willingly give it to. Nobody was forcing you to hand that information over to them.
The HSE one was absolutely Illegal.
How so?
I was asked going into places to present it and if I refused was refused entry. Being refused to let back in the office was also Illegal company policy does not trump the laws of the land.
What laws did your company break by making sure that anyone who came in to work was vaccinated against a dangerous virus?
Yes I was talking about he HSE one not the EU one.
On human rights there are no laws governing your requirement to get vaccinated in Ireland Travel yes.
On the second point I was refused entry for not presenting so no choice. Pretty obvious.
The HSE cert had no basis in law. Present the law dealing with people in Ireland having to be vaccinated against covid.
Last point there are no laws governing vaccination for work purposes in Ireland. Could be wrong easy to prove me. For people in Ireland from Ireland not a 3rd at risk country.
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So all of your points are bullsh1t and not as you claimed?
Yet we have another anti-vaxxer with nothing of substance to back up their absurd claims. It gets boring very quickly!
However, given that your OH is allegedly working as a "health care worker", I find your selfish anti-vax nonsense frightening and disappointing that in the three years since Covid started, they haven't managed to educate you!
It's literally the point you've been making. Why don't you link to some data first?
I am vaccinated how am I anti vaxx. So we cant point to laws as I stated otherwise we would have to admit a mandate. No idea what the personal stuff is about.
No it's not I was talking about the HSE certificate. Maybe my bad for not leading with that one. I assumed people knew about the various Certificates.
You are all over the place here. The checkpoints and 2km or 5km restrictions were 2020. You needed a justification e.g. work or essential shopping to go beyond that. But that wasn't a certificate.
Golfgate was in August 2020. There were no vaccine certs, HSE or EU or otherwise then because there were no vaccines then. This is all a figment of your imagination.
You should go challenge everything in court so we can post the news reports here
I could have got the same Garda vetted form my partner got to help her out in her work. But Thought more exposure via me traveling more would not be the best. I don't have deep pockets to challenge whether the HSE cert was a recommendation vs needed. Was vaccinated on 07 21. That makes me an anti vaxxer apparently.
The majority of all the vaccines you get in your lifetime, you received in the first few days/months of your life
We give vaccines to children for very good reasons, to protect them, and also to prevent the spread of infectious diseases.
Covid may affect older people more than younger people in it's current form, but diseases evolve and the more widespread it is, the more likely it is for new strains to evolve that may be more harmful to children. Covid was a Novel virus, which meant humans had no immunity to it and the long term consequences of Covid infections were unknown, and are still unknown, so neither vaccinating nor not vaccinating children can be considered as risk free.
There were some studies in the effects of 'Long Covid' in children
here's a 2022 meta analysis
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-13495-5
Constantly spouting anti-vaxx talking points is what makes people think you're an anti-vaxxer.
Point them out also the laws in place to stop you from moving around working and alike. We seems to just dismiss that. Some jumped in with health and safety in work only reason I responded after that in the thread. Seems pointless non want to admit to covid hysteria. Explain the need for a HSE cert vs the European one.
I'm not here to research your points for you. Your anti-vaxx tropes have been repeatedly dismantled and yet you trot them out nevertheless.
More nonsense. There were never any laws or regulations which required a vaccine cert to "move around".
You needed a digital covid cert for international travel but that was true across the whole EU and many other countries also and it was a very sensible measure at the time.
The vaccine card given by the HSE / doctor / pharmacist was not a digital cert or a covid cert. It was just a piece of paper recording what vaccine you got and when, for your own information. You were NEVER required to produce it to anyone and it had no legal standing or protection against forgery etc. so it would have been useless to make it a requirement for anything.
All of this stuff was only between 18 and 30 months ago yet you are either completely misremembering what happened or falsifying it to further an agenda.
My cert has a QR code on the back.
Just to add my cert is HSE printed and not a bit of paper it's cardboard On the front it says please keep it safe.
did you take a flight anytime in the last 3 years?
ireland required proof of vaccination or negative tests to go in and out of airports
Sigh
Nope.
Its literally in the post you quoted
it's the same thing.
in order to fly you needed to either be vaxxed or test negative within 72 hours from departure.
That's limiting freedom of circulation by definition
The 5km restrictions were in 2021 also. See below article dated March 20, 2021.
It is you - and the seven posters who thanked your post - who are misremembering what are very recent events.
The point is that you weren't stopped at checkpoints looking for your vaccine certificate as part of the 2km or 5km restrictions. In 2020 or 2021.
The post it replied to was hopelessly confused about different paperwork.
The people who thanked the post were following the thread.
By your logic passports are also a limit on freedoms then
Or an eye test for your driving licence
Maybe it's because passports or eye tests don't contain 5G antenae or copies of MS Windows software? 🤣
So what. The other poster said that certs were needed to "move around" which was bollocks.
Never had one of the HSE things you are on about, but is that QR code maybe just a link to the HSE website with more information about the vaccines rather than anything unique to you?
Did you try scanning it?
That poster is sitebanned so an answer is unlikely...
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On the eve of the three-year anniversary of Ireland’s first confirmed case of Covid-19, many of us are still shaking our heads as we look back in disbelief at the hallmarks of the “new normal”.
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