i have heard chat about not paying import/vrt/vat on pre-brexit EV's. Say for the likes of this one below, anyone know what the craic would be?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206166874036?onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&radius=1500&make=Hyundai&model=IONIQ&fuel-type=Electric&sort=relevance&price-to=20000&postcode=bt358qs&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&page=1
That's in GB, so you would be assessed 23% VAT, 10% Duty and then 7% VRT (which is 0 if the OMSP is below 40k).
The exemptions are only for NI
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Try to get proof battery was replaced
We've a 211 Ioniq, and after about a year and a half of waiting, and a few follow ups, we got our new battery last month.
Had to ask for some documentation as proof it was done. Took the garage about half a day to do the work.
Of course I can't see the battery so have to take their word it was changed!
I am thinking of pulling the trigger on one of these in the next week or so. This will be my first EV and will mainly be use for drive kids to football matches and traning etc so mostly short journeys. I will be getting a charger installed at home so shouldnt be any issues with charging. We have a seperate 161 diesel Insgnia that we can use if needed so range anxiety isn't an issue. Is there anything else I should consider before I buy one, we have 3 kids under 10 youngest is 2.
From what I can see the Ionic seems to offer the best value for money on a 30k budget at the minute.
Just be careful on second hand pricing, the 38kWh could be bought new a few years ago for not much over €30K. Prices should settle a bit in the used market with the big drop in new prices announced by Tesla last week.
We love ours anyway, great car and lovely to drive. Super efficient car which is becoming ever more important with the sky high electricity prices. You'll be reading on here about the rapid charging speed being disappointing but your use case looks similar to ours with 99.9% charging done at home overnight so it's a non-issue (and it's still a non-issue even if you do need to rapid charge the odd time, what's 10 mins extra spent at a charger if you're not a regular at the fast chargers). What year are you thinking of buying? They're all still well under warranty anyway.
I'd just note that you can buy a brand new MG4 for 30 k euros.
Might be worth a look.
Looking at 2021 or 2022 but I wasn't aware you could get new for 30k a couple of years ago
https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/hyundai/ioniq/fpa/202301143263710?SOURCE_ID=SOURCE_ID_AD_IN_VEHICLE_COMPARE
https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/hyundai/ioniq/fpa/202301123187674?SOURCE_ID=SOURCE_ID_AD_IN_VEHICLE_COMPARE
I will take a look cheers, it will come down to what my wife prefers once we test drive but at the minute I am leaning toward Ionic (having not test drove). I looked at the MG ZS but hadn't considered the M4
In fairness the Ioinq 38 is loaded with extras
You can also get a second hand Kona 64kWh (very long range) from about €25k (these are poor spec though) or the bigger and better sister the eNiro, should be got for not much over €30k soon. And I expect some of the earlier Tesla Model 3 to be had for not that much over the €30k mark before the end of next quarter.
And Mooney's are for the birds with their second hand pricing. And don't expect to be able to negotiate much with them either. They're old skool. Sitting on their hands until a fool comes along who is easily separated from his money 😁
That white one looks very fresh, they are a good car imo. But the price is cloud cuckoo land🙂
Out of curiousity what do you think the price should be for that white one?
I wouldn't really like to guess, the car is almost new. But I would be looking at a years depreciation on 30K.
@unkel would probably say more..😁
Hi, I bought a 201 a year ago. I looked at new at the time which were about €36k, but got a good deal on the used one and it got the battery replacement done under warranty.
Car is great, I have only had to use public chargers once in the year. I travel about 500km per week so big saving on diesel with energia ev rate.
I notice there are a lot of uk spec ones on the market now which don’t have the leather seats, not sure is any other spec missing compared to Irish spec.
Loked at MG4 yesterday, decided to search for a clean Ioniq. Did not like a build quality of MG.
Not quite a fair comparison though, is it? The MG4 costs brand new what a second hand Ioniq that's a few years old costs. Also Korean cars are the best built cars in the world, nothing beats it, not even German or Japanese cars.
I was comparing to this one:
Did you take into account import duty, VAT, etc?
It is NI car so nothing of it applies if I interpret revenue information correct.
You only posted a picture, not a link. So it wasn't clear where the car was, it just looked like a UK car on UK plates. Yes what you say is correct, but you will have to prove it was registered in NI before Brexit. Can you do that with 100% certainty?
The cheapest one in Ireland seems to be this one:
Roughly the same price as the MG4 brand new, but of course this car is 3 years old now.
Regarding NI cars, let's advise everyone to check the documentation, contact relevant authorities where needed in order to establish a fact prior to purchase rather than the alternative shown in this forum which is becoming rather interrogative towards those citing NI cars. I fear the latter would push people away from exploring the potential of saving an easy couple of thousand if the stars were to align.
Agreed. I didn't want to come over interrogatively, but the last thing I want to see is a boardsie getting burnt bringing a car in when they don't 100% know what they are doing!
The cheapest, but not the best value IMHO would be this one:
Complete noob here, hoping to get some feedback on one of these models if possible.
I have been sifting through the comments, I'm very interested in one of these, looking at around 23k for 2020-2021 model and the range from Donedeal is saying 311kms. The majority of the feedback seems to be, it's nice if you can get it at the right price however it doesn't have rapid charging to use on some public charging points?
My annual mileage is in and around 10k per year, mostly short journeys around town and for sports, but once a month I have a 270km round trip I need to do. There is charging at the job, but not sure if it's a fast or slow charger.
I could charge at home also, I'm guessing I just buy the charger that matches the port on the car and away I go?
At 2020/2021 should I be expecting to put money away for a new battery down the line? I'd be coming for a 2017 1.6 diesel 130bhp Megane.
They DO have rapid charging - using CCS.
Quite slow - 35 to 45 kW charging and Hyundais claimed charge time to 80 percent was 57 mins.......
BUT
On a 270 kms round trip you probably don't need that long.
All you need to add during the journey is enough to make it back home.
You are looking at a situation where the Ioniq might have 135 miles range but your journey is 170 miles.
So all you need to add in a charge is 35 miles range plus whatever extra percent you would feel comfortable arriving home with.
Although a 270 kms journey once a month would have me thinking of a 64 kwh battery EV like an eNiro tbh.
Edit.
Home charging is a no brainer if you can do it.
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Was interested in this one myself, but a couple of unexpected bills put an end to it :(
When I spoke to them, there was 0% finance for 3 years up to 15K
Think that is a UK import, nothing wrong with that, except afaik the Irish ones had a better spec (Leather etc).
Beware done deal ranges. They use wltp which is totally unrealistic. 200kM is more realistic but varies summer to winter and high speed motorway speed limit to town driving. Home chargers typically charge at 7kW so it typically takes 5-8 hours if very low. Similar times at work chargers. On trips more than 100 km from home (200km round trip) you may need to public charge to make it back home. Many 22kW chargers are 7/11kW on an ioniq so for speed you should aim for 50kW+ chargers. Beware at peak times like Friday evening there is not enough public chargers they may be busy blocked or broken so don't rely on public chargers for regular trips.
For your personal use case if you were to buy a 38kWh model you may need to charge on long trips at destination or stop mid trip. Ensure they are at least 3+ chargers on route in case the first and second are busy when you need them.
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