The restock came in at about 11am, and as far as I could see they were still there until about 6-7pm. Heck, I found out only after I booted up my desktop at about midday, looked in Tweetdeck and saw that my saved searches for "4090 uk" were lighting up with the FE notification.
While the prices are definitely somewhat extreme this time around, I mean I came in knowing I had the money and wanted to get a halo product that would last many years, given my current rig was built at the end of 2015. And I was very willing and actively attempting to spend the £1600 on a 4090FE to power that. So in the end, 2/3rds the performance for 2/3rds the price seems reasonable enough, just hope it's still good another 6 years from now.
Was it really eight hours?! Jaysus. I must’ve missed the start of it then. Didn’t even get a notification from the HotStock app, just dawned on me to take a random look and there it was.
Yeah, despite the somewhat negative reviews around it, the 4070Ti is pretty compelling. 3090Ti performance but with absolutely savage perf/watt. €1K+ for a XX70 class card is still egregious though.
The 7X3D lineup does look decent! Think I’d be all over the 7900 variant (the 7800X3 looks like it’s a bit toasty). It’s just a pity the cost of admission to Zen 4 is so stupidly high. I can’t justify paying over double the price for an x670 mobo over my current one. Never mind DDR5…
Well thanks TheChrisD , no, honestly, thanks
My head was already melted and you come along, without so much as a by your leave, and throw a gallon of petrol on top of it .
😁
The 4070ti is looking more and more appealing to me and I hate myself for it ( and yet there is other voices in my head singing 'Do it, do it, do it. )
Direct Euro transaction rather than having to worry about currency conversions and customs. Plus Caseking had a "login/pay with Amazon account" feature that helped my lazy ass 🤣
Not to mention the one I got (Gigabyte Gaming OC) only cost me €1,050 all in [€1000 base, VAT adjustment from 19->23%, delivery], whereas OCUK are charging £949 (€1,070) for it before extras.
Can I ask why you went with Caseking instead of Overclockers ( this is me assuming they are one in the same ? , which could also be me being wrong )
I do see that Caseking seem to have more variants in stock .
It was more than four hours, closer to eight.
Anyway, the amount of hoops I'd have to jump through to order an FE from Scan put me off entirely; so I got a 4070Ti from Caseking, and can use the extra grand to put towards a main guts upgrade sooner — especially if the new X3D's are a reasonable price.
I didn't try it with included adapter but the cable I bought from corsair slotted into the gpu with ease.
One thing I wondered was the adapter the gpu came with has connections for four power cable's, the proper 12vhpwr cable I bought only has two power connectors to the psu.
Heads up - you can use a Revolut card (even one of their temporary online-use-only cards) to complete the transaction. You'll need a UK delivery address, of course, but you can stick in the same address for the billing address as well - Revolut doesn't care. I picked up a 4090 in yesterday's drop this way. Wasn't going to but, after it stayed in stock for almost 4 hours (!), I couldn't resist. I almost wanted the transaction to fail 😂
Was shocked it stayed in stock for so long. Clearly demand is way down - the post-Christmas poverty likely not helping either.
Bends are not an issue as per gamers nexus actually testing physical cards and cables.
Maybe the retailers don't want to stock them since they might not sell at the expected €2500 price point.
Actually... have you tried https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/asus-rog-strix-geforce-4090-oc-24gb-graphics-card-rog-strix-rtx4090-o24g-g/version.asp ? Be warned: €2565
Bending is only a problem if the cable is not 100% fully inserted (and supposedly it requires an almost unnervingly large amount of force to ensure it's fully inserted), as the slight tugs on the connector loosening it is what causes the shorting and resultant melting issues.
So I'm a 4090 pleb and after all the crap when they came out with the power connection I'm being super cautious. I got a dedicated 12vhpwr cable for it but still have to ben d it in the case. What do you guys think of this bend? I know the issue mainly seemed to be with adapters not being fully seated, my cable is 100% seated properly, just not sure if bending them is an issue or not. I got a vertical GPU riser cable mount for it but it doesn't really suit, GPU sits on the ram and I'd have to remove some bottom fans to fit the mount properly so would rather go the normal way.
I'm still finding it hard to come by a whole raft of the 4090 variants. Can't seem to find a ASUS Strix anywhere for example, it's not even necessarily a case of them selling out - they just don't seem to be coming into stock in Europe.
Right now on mindfactory in Germany you can pick up a 4090, 4080, 4070ti, 7800xtx/xt. Thats in comparison to the last 3 years, where you would get nothing unless you were hunting for it or willing to pay two times MSRP.
The cards are not selling, even the 4090's. The founders/reference cards still sell, for the same reasons EVGA bailed on the market but the rest are sitting on shelves at this point.
Selling where ? :D
The 4090 sold out on what was a reasonable stock run for a halo product. Xtx was selling reasonably until the cooler situation raised its head.
To me, the point would be that at these insane prices the number of units sold on all the cards should be 0. Gamers should flat out reject them. But even with weaker sales, they are still getting buyers, even above MSRP in some cases.
Well, that 4070Ti launch was definitely another paper launch...
The thought of Nvidia having an even greater monopoly and level of freedom to do whatever they want is not a pleasant thought tbh. If it wasn't for my social gaming circle being on PC I think I'd nearly switch to a console and steam deck fully with the way things are.
At this point I think NVidia should just kill its partner model.
To do that they'd have to be aware of where their markets exist and stock cards in all of those places. I'd shudder if the cards became FE-only, but they stuck with the current stupid distribution method of picking a specific partner store that fulfils the orders, but gets to enforce it's own restrictions on sales.
I'm not sure I agree that buyers are holding up prices. There are plenty of people that abstained from the 30 series, and that included a period where they couldn't leave their houses. The 30 series pricing was held up by mining. GPU sales are currently in recession despite the product being much better than the 30 series in terms of raw grunt and efficiency.
Nvidia would have been quite consistent with price/performance on the 40 series with a $950 4070Ti. The 80 and 90 cards offer 125% and 165% of the performance of the 4070Ti.
Nvidia predicted that they would be supply constrained and so it made sense to extract maximum margin from fewer sales. That has doubly backfired as there's now ample fab capacity and less demand due to cost of living inflation.
With foresight Nvidia should have bailed out their partners holding overpriced 30 series stock, lowered pricing on the 40 series and sold bucketloads of cards at lower margins. Same gross profits, happy customers, happy partners, greater future profits from larger customer base (rather than PC gamers disappearing to become laptop+console users).
At this point I think NVidia should just kill its partner model. It is perfectly able to finance R&D on cooling and packaging, and would gain agility in responding to market demand.
In short, imagine a market where NVidia acts more like Sony. Simpler consumer product offering of a few tiers between $300 and $1200 and max out the volumes. It shouldn't be necessary to watch hours of YouTube reviews to pick a damn GPU.
Unrelatedly, I hope Nvidia keeps pushing performance and efficiency at the high end. A 4090 is the only thing that can run high end VR (e.g. Varjo Aero and above) and I want to see that tech continue to develop.
Zero. Computer components are 0% duty. Just paid Irish vat and an admin fee to DHL.
Reviewers seem to be united in absolutely slating the 4070ti as the worst of a bad lot of over-priced borderline-scam releases from both camps for this generation.
Unfortunately, this will only stop when mugs stop paying the overinflated prices in the first place. Since they won't, nothing is going to return to normal and Nvidia & AMD will continue down this path.
What sort of import tax did you have to pay?
Fortunately there are like minded idiots who have modded their way to success. 😀
https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/yuek9p/4090_fe_inside_an_nzxt_h1/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NZXT/comments/1016wzq/h1_v2_fit_rtx_40804090/
I'm kinda in the same boat except I'm thinking should I spend less and see what happens with the market later on .
By Saturday I will have all the parts for my new build except the GPU . My current PC has a 1080 since 2017 on a 1440p monitor so while I was thinking 4080 and then 4070ti, now I'm leaning more towards a 3060 or 3060ti depending how the 4070ti launch changes prices ( which recent history has taught me ....it won't )
But yeah , head melted indeed .
I was battling with the same thoughts, was hoping 4080 would come down, no sign of it happening so it ending with me buying a 4090 from OCUK. Price was a good deal at the time, if anything 4090 related can be considered a good deal! Kfa2 card for £100 above msrp of the FE card but still quite a bit cheaper than I could get any 4090 from Germany for. Bought ex vat and I paid Irish vat here on import.
I got the card, a vertical bracket for my case and a 12vhpwr cable for my PSU for less than the cost of the 4090 itself from Germany.
New case time!
Thanks for the tip, picked up one through the UK Nvidia site (which is fulfilled by Scan). Now I just have to find a way to make it fit. 😀
(then will be flogging my 3080 10GB for sensible money).
4090 FE restocked today.
Had an arrangement with a friend for them to accept delivery and bring it with them over here.
Scan rejects Irish cards at checkout.
Argh.
Germany prices for the 4080 and 4090 AIB cards are about 1.15 and 1.25x the US $ FE MSRP respectively, but I'm hoping that since the 4080 isn't selling as well as the 4090, 1.15x is where it's at and so €900 might be achievable.
On a cost per mm2 of die basis, the $800 4070Ti is priced similarly to the 4090, with the 4080 being the real outlier. Given that fault stats and geometry makes larger dies more expensive, the 4090 cost per mm2 really ought to represent the upper bound of pricing.
A 190mm2 4060(Ti?) might be $500/€600, which seems about "right" given that the 3060Ti launched at $400.
All the 3080/90 variants had die sizes larger than the 4090, which makes the 4080 pricing look particularly egregious with its relatively small die (62% of the 4090). 4080 pricing was a failed experiment.
I'd really like to see the 4070Ti with a smaller cooler. Makes no sense to have a 4090 sized cooler on a half sized die with half the memory.
Ramble over.
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-selling-poorly-as-market-prices-soar-over-msrp-most-expensive-nv-gpu-in-terms-of-die-area/
Yeah anything worth getting anymore is around the 1000 which instantly makes you go sure if I'm spending that much I might as well spend extra and get the best 🤷♂️ and Nvidia and AMD know it
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