Morality kinda goes out the window when you'd have the likes of the Russian bastards brutalising your country. Wouldn't you agree?
Or would you just roll over and let them do as they wish?
Where's your moral compass? As far as your speel goes here, it's firmly jammed.
worrying scenes in ukraine today - massive blackouts across the country as a result of todays wave of bombing
they will very soon reach a point where their grid cannot provide enough electricity for most of their (remaining) population - what happens then?
I'd say Putin is spitting with rage by the restraint Ukraine are showing by not attacking Moscow or any civilian area. He'd love it.
I'd imagine some on here could get upset and call for investigations to rule out Ukrainian involvement and war crimes investigations to keep the Ukrainians honest if this false flag goes ahead,
Can't see it happening they have been called out by everyone pretty much before it happens
Did you see the part where i said: “and yes I know the Russians are doing that already”, or are you being deliberately obtuse?
Putin throwing his toys out of the pram again.
Next they will be telling us that ukraine should surrender and give putin everything he wants and this will all end or lads did you hear about the russian nuclear weapons.
Again
Russian maintenance depot gets hit:
"if we attack Russia, they will most likely use non-nuclear weapons that can destroy entire cities."
And what incredible, powerful Russian weapons would these be? Are they from the super-secret, ultra-modern part of the Russian military that is being held back? Because the benevolent Russians don't want to completely destroy Ukraine?
"Couldn't that ultimately escalate to indiscriminate attacks "
You mean like the daily indiscriminate attacks on ukraine for the last 270+ days and nights..... (273)
Imagine that
Wanting to watch a city burn .
Been watching it happen in Ukraine for the last 9 months,
But yet here we are poor russians shouldn't feel the actions of their own war .
Nice word play though
And you well know yourself that wanting to watch a city burn does not mean wanting to hit legitimate military targets within the city so don’t play coy.
Also please find a single instance of anytime I said Russian bombing was ok. You seem to only deal in caricatures of real life.
"but there is plenty of legimate military targets that can be hit".
Yeah, nowt wrong with that at face value. But deep inside Russia though?
"other infrastructure"
Such as?
"you hit us and we will hit back harder".
Couldn't that ultimately escalate to indiscriminate attacks (and yes I know the Russians are doing that already) that you don't seem to want??
My advise to Ukraine would be to look for ways to deescalate and the same for the European countries.
That is what Ukrainians are doing already. I'll explain to you in simple words. The war is continuing because Russians are behaving badly in Ukraine, m'okay? To deescalate, Russians need to be persuaded to leave all Ukrainian lands and to stop sending rockets. The fastest persuasion tactic is to make them leave by force, and apparently it works! Russians are retreating, so probably they are getting the hint that they are not welcome.
Your not a 4 year old in preschool,your well aware what a war is and what Warfare entails,
Trying to be religious about it ,oh well I believe in peace but it's ok if Russia bomb's Ukraine, but as long as the Ukrainians don't hit back I'm ok with the current situation.
Blackout in Moldova after Russian missile strikes in Ukraine
another country affected by the war to end all wars
Never said anything about indiscriminate bombing of any city ,
I did day Moscow needs to burn but there is plenty of legimate military targets that can be hit along with other infrastructure that would limit civilian casualties but send a message you hit us and we will hit back harder,
It's not really working out for ya
It's pathetic to be honest. If you want to witness a "four legs good, two legs bad" level of argument, this thread is dripping with it.
Gatling, why don't you just cut to the chase and admit that you're ok with indiscriminate bombing of Russian cities as a response to what the Russians are doing. It would save a load of time.
it is the same tediousness MO from certain posters anytime they are even vaguely contradicted though.
”oh here comes the Russian trolls”
tediois beyond belief and just a way to deflect having to countenance any different viewpoint. Maybe sometimes some introspection is required instead.
Yes it is.
But as I've already said the following: "But then again they live under the yoke of an authoritarian regime that has total control of the media and bloodily cracks down on dissent", so I don't know why you are trying to paint me as pro their method of governance. It's an appalling system. I've also called for regime change in Russia in a previous post. Did you miss that?
Do you not think that wanting to watch Moscow burn and that they all deserve it is the kind of rhetoric (and callousness) that probably should be called out though?
it’s not helpful and it’s reducing the war to little more than a blood sport.
Did Anyone see the report last week I believe that Poland was buying 200 HiMars units from the US on top of Apache gunships, Abrams tanks,F16s and F35 jets ,at the current rate Poland will be the one of the most powerful militaries in Europe if not NATO
Unfortunately yeah,
But the winding up of others is pretty obvious, we've seen and heard it all from day one ,
It's like whenever people come along with the good oul America did this and America did that speeches,Iraq and Afghanistan,
Like we don't already know all of the fact's but yet they still pop up playing I'm so offended posts
I vaguely remember something said about the traditional rough treatment of russian conscripts as "beat your own to frighten others".
Trump sent a few javelin missiles with strict conditions that they couldn't be used against Russia and they were only to be seen as a deterrent,
Ukraine now has one of the largest supplies of anti tank and anti aircraft missles/manpads anywhere in the world and are beating your pals on a daily basis, something if Obama did 9 years ago Russia wouldn't have invaded ukraine again
Entitled to my point of view, just like you are.
Sounds like your winding people up with the handful of posts you have in here,
Mayor of Kyiv confirms missile strike at one of the infrastructure objects in the city
Explanation. If we keep fighting the here we migth drive them out or make them regret every coming into Ukraine but if we attack Russia, they will most likely use non-nuclear weapons that can destroy entire cities.
I mean can everyone not see this as obvious or am i completely deluded?