Are you getting a smart meter.
I have not approved the company to put one in yet. I don't think I will get one, as I can see driving my crazy checking on the how much energy is been used.
Very true. I have a smart meter and a 24 hour plan. Electric company even told me that the 24 hour plan suits my usage better. They were quite open about it.
Dafuq?
That’s interesting about the electric chainsaw. Could help police track serial killers especially if used at odd hours.
Yes but a smart meter enables a 'smart' price plan. I think it would be foolish to think that smart meters won't be on a 'smart' plan sooner or later. For now I'll take my chances without either.
Apt username !
I assume that was directed at me? I know that. Always some smart arse on here. 🙄
No, it was directed at everyone.
Always someone with a persecution complex on here. 😜
Not really. No self respecting timber cutter would use a chainsaw.
An interesting article on what they are doing in UK with smart meters. I wonder could the same happen here?
I don't think people understand what the future plan is. Everyone is offered a meter and some refuse. The standard rate will go up and the smart plan will be cheaper even on the peak rate. Sticking with the old meter will mean you can't avail of any smart plan. There will then be a rush for smart meters and then eventually a charge for those who hold out. It will be part of a survey on a property as a negative and a required upgrade.
During this period there will be inevitable mistakes which will be jumped on by the naysayers. Won't matter if it is only one person out of all the customers a big deal will be made.
If you are not selling power back to the network one could opt for a day/night meter & avoid the peak rates.
Always a lot of righteous on here,too
A lot here can see the future or are a GREEN or work for the power companies
Who knows, maybe so, maybe not. From experience smart plans are smart for the provider not so much for the customer. I could be wrong but for now I'll take my chances.
It is pretty certain but I don't see what chances you are taking. You aren't going to get cheaper electricity by staying on an old meter.
No but I might escape the worst. I might not.
Friend of mine works in the ESB and we spoke about this topic. He told me that on average smart plans pay ~ 5% - 6% more for their electricity, today.
You won't avoid anything but you certainly will behind in options. I don't think you get what I am saying, if you don't have a smart meter you will pay more on the hourly rate by the time they change to smart only plans. It doesn't matter if people aren't using their smart plans effectively now. You seem to think that when plans are changed because you are on an old meter you will get a better rate because people are not using the smart plans effectively at the moment. Just think for a minute why would a company do that? The goal is to have smart plans per government plans there won't be an incentive to be able to avoid that there will be a stick in the form of costs.
Do you really think that civil servants are aware how people react to change here and how they scheme to avoid it. All the people saying they wouldn't pay LPT are stuck with it with no way to avoid it. You may think this is like water charges but it isn't as people are accustomed to paying a bill and they know they will get cut off.
Fight the sky and sea all you like
You can opt out if you wish.
Mine was installed in 2019. Everything continues as it was, except no need to take a reading (bar one occasion when the internet connection dropped so it was an estimation).
The smart plans are not mandatory - you can just continue with 24-hour or day/night standard... until I suppose there's no option but the smart plans, which do seem pricey.
But I don't know what the issue with the meter is. It's just new, more efficient technology.
Yet that is exactly what I am doing, I have an old D/N meter with a tariff plan that was not available to smart plans/meters, currently paying 28c day and 9c night inclusive of vat.I have nothing against smart meters and will get one when its in my interest to get one, but it seems that the energy companies are using the smart meter rollout and the unprecedented price increases to engage in a bit of price gouging, there also seems to a concerted effort from the powers that be to curb peak demand and this ensures very high prices for peak hours (5-7pm or 4-8pm)in the future.
Smart meters do not currently support D/N tariffs as used by the current 270k consumers that have D/N plans on the the old meters.There has been numerous discussions and news articles on this recently, latest thread is here.
https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058278418/meter-tariff-compatibility#latest
I have an electricity monitor from which I can download my usage as a CSV file and import into Excel. I made a spreadsheet that takes all that data and tells me what I would pay for a 24h tariff versus a smart tariff and to my surprise the smart tariff actually worked out very slightly cheaper, albeit by only around €6 per month. I have a plug-in hybrid car that I charge approx twice a week, and if I shifted the charging to the night rate it would save me another €15 a month or so. Again, not a massive amount but it kind of debunks the idea that smart tariffs will result in massively higher bills.
This all depends on your usage patterns and any changes / tweaks to the smart tariff bands in the future of course.
Yes, I applied to have one installed in advance of their rolling out in my county
Its easy for me now to be able to see instantly what energy I am using and monitor my usage, and I switched to a smart plan with energia, and recently switched to a new smart plan with FloGas. I have my dishwahser, washing machine etc timed to come on at night, and get my showers early in the morning offpeak, before 8am. It really helps with the bills, I'm not concerned about suspicions, or conspiracy theories around them.
Load shifting has been available for the last 40 years via D/N meters,and energy monitoring can be done via an amazon purchased monitor for 20e,theres nothing new here from the smart meters except you are paying more than D/N customers who are still on the old meters.
For those that aren't aware, you can see your smart meter readings from ESB Networks, regardless of whether you have a smart meter plan or not. I presume it applies to all suppliers as well. See link below for registration:
https://www.esbnetworks.ie/existing-connections/meters-and-readings/benefits-of-customer-portal
I didn't sign up for the smart meter plan and I can't see the info on my online account. It just shows the charge per bill under billing and usage.
Can they install it without telling you? I don't want one.
It's their equipment, so I suspect they can do it without your permission.
If its ur esb meter and it's outside yes they could do it when ur not there. If you are there they knock at the door and ask if it is a suitable time. I said no and he left.If you don't want one let them know when they ring to make an appointment. When they are in your area you will get letters and phone calls. Just tell them you don't want one and to take you off the list and that will be in the end of it. We did that over a year and a half ago and nothing since. My mother inlaw started getting the letters and calls last month she told them over the phone to take her off the list and the girl said that's no problem. She said if you change your mind to ring them back and they will do it then if she wants it. But otherwise they won't contact her again.
It's being rolled out to all customers bit by bit, it only appeared on my account recently.
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