How do people feel about this one? Will it be short and sweet?
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They are on Gov.ie - Circular 19/2022.
You can download a PDF copy of the payscales here:
gov.ie - Circular 19/2022 - February 2nd and October 1st 2022 (www.gov.ie)
That's exactly what I was looking for. The ones I was looking at seem a flat 3% though? Is the CC not covered by the previously agreed 1%/500 from the old building momentum agreement?
The February scales in the circular are inclusive of the 1% increase.
The October scales are then the new February scales with an additional 3% increase.
I thought the October 2022 scale was 1%/500 but the 3% was backdated from the Februrary 2022 scale but to be added onto the October one. It looks like that document just added 3% from the old Feb 2022 scale.
The rates from October 2022 are detailed from page 15.
There are two sets of scales in the appendices - the first set shows the scales from 2 Feb 22, with the 3% increase; the second set shows the ones applicable from 1 Oct 22,with the additional 1%/E500 (and ppc/non-ppc are included in each set as well).
Most private sector pension schemes are now defined contribution, which means that the company has no liability on top of the initial payments and most private sector employers now only match what the employees contribute capped at approx 3 - 5%
Sorry should be the other way around
I'm an idiot, cheers all
We got our monthly pay today. No sign of any increases or arrears.
Go onto the NSSO and look at your pay slip. It will have your salary scale on the too and your current point.
Same as last month.
Same. Neither the 1% nor 3% applied.
It won't be applied until the November or December wage, it was on the ministers webpage. It will be backdated of course.
im not sure about "most" but of friends i know about who are equivalent or (tbf) better qualified and progressed in their careers than i am, matching up to ten or eleven percent is not at all rare and matching higher than that not unheard of.
Is monthly pay common in the PS? I don't think anyone in the CS is monthly paid but maybe there's some weirdo grade somewhere...
Getting paid fortnightly is great, no poverty January for one thing. I have my mortgage coming out fortnightly as well which saves interest in the long run.
Getting paid weekly, not so great, but that's just because of the size of the pay packet!
AP and above is monthly, isn't it ?
nope
No, in the CS only pensioners are paid monthly - COs are weekly and everybody else is fortnightly
I work in a third level institution, and I get paid monthly.
I'm a CS pensioner and I'm paid fortnightly, same schedule as I was paid when working.
Garda pensions are monthly
But not serving Gardai? Seems odd if there's a different schedule for serving and retired. It would mean a lot of extra payroll runs as the monthly would rarely line up with weekly or fortnightly.
There was talk in about 2010 or so about forcing everyone in the CS onto monthly pay, would make it a lot harder for me to manage never mind a CO, for what would be a small saving in admin costs.
AGS retirees get paid the start of the month
I waited a while before responding to see if any of your esteemed colleagues would correct you on this point. Alas not.
Quick to piss and moan and spread misinformation like paying 12%+ in pension contributions.
Not so quick in providing facts.
Anyone not entitled to the pension can apply to have ASC refunded.
And people want me banned from this thread. Those people might be more comfortable in North Korea where facts are suppressed.
They can now petition to have the ASC refunded. That was not the case with the PRD, which was in place for years before it was renamed for the second time and the possibility of refunds was put in place.
I continue to maintain that PRD/ASC has nothing to do with pensions. If it did, the contributions would be ringfenced for that purpose and those without pension entitlements would never have had to pay it. It's simply a paycut by another name. Or a surtax on PS workers for having the temerity to serve the public.
P. S. Between pension contributions, PRSI, and ASC, I pay over 16% of my gross salary.
dont bother replying to that poster they are shameless
I'm glad to see you correct the record. That's not quite the impression you give in your first post now was it?
So now your including PRSI in order to fit the lie of paying 12%+ pension contributions. Everyone pays PRSI and its not just for pensions, it's for eyecare, dental and other benefits.
Taking the thresholds of ASC and pension contributions below which no deduction is taken means that actual % taken from your salary is not all that different to what someone in the private sector has to pay. Which is a flat rate with no deduction free earnings allowed.
Yeah, how dare someone challenge, question and correct the misinformation that goes on in threads like these.
I am happy to have corrected the previous poster.
At least some of use can see through the coordinated propaganda from unions and employees.
I accept there is low paid civil service at the beginning of their career. That doesn't mean all state employees have it badly off.
For most of its existence, the PRD/ASC has been paid by all in the PS, regardless of pension entitlements. And that fact alone shows that it never had anything to do with pensions. An acquaintance with the history of its imposition confirms this. The gov't were originally going to institute an additional pay cut but were worried about the effect on existing PS pensioners, whose pensions would also be cut. The PRD (which had a different name then) was a way of instituting a pay cut without it affecting pensioners.
I included PRSI because my pension integrates the State Contributory Pension. That means that part of my PRSI is going to my pension. Take out the PRSI and I'm still paying 12.4% of my gross income toward my pension as well as a portion of what I pay in PRSI.
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