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Pubs and Clubs to get longer opening hours

MrMusician18

So pubs are going to be given a license to operate every night until 12:30 and clubs until 6am it appears. While I don't particularly have an issue with this - though I do question the wisdom of having very late clubs (though that's somewhat moot as they are a dying breed anyway), what I am wondering is how policymakers can square this policy of making alcohol more available whilst at the same time operating a minimum unit pricing model.

To be honest, it seems grossly unfair on the consumer that pubs and clubs are given this special treatment while the man with a can is punished.

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lawred2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058268963/pubs-and-clubs-to-get-longer-opening-hours

Certainly not a dying business in Dublin city anyway..

Hungry Burger

Isn’t 1230 in and around the time pubs shut nowadays anyway? 😂

Im too old for clubs nowadays but I’d happily sit in a pub till 0130 am or 2 on a Saturdays evening.

hotmail.com

Amazing this wasn't done sooner.

We can be stunningly backwards compared to Europe sometimes.

This is finally going to change that.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791187#Comment_119791187

Apparently it is.

Nationally the number of niteclubs has shrunk 80% in those 20 years, to just under 100 venues.

Anecdotally I think they have largely been partially replaced by late bars.

murpho999

I'd disappointed that they didn't go further.

Why can't pubs be open till 2/3 if they wanted to at the weekend?

Also, I still find it annoying that you can't buy alcohol for later use in a supermarket along with your shopping before 10.30 am. What are they afraid of?

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791180#Comment_119791180

That's not a reason not to offer the longer opening though.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791260#Comment_119791260

It isn't, but it means that the policy will not achieve its goals.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791167#Comment_119791167

I wonder is Spain similar to my experience in the UK where the very late spots were usually specialist. You had some for tourists and late drinkers but most were casinos, hardcore rave clubs or gay (practically sex) clubs.

There were a fair few where I think there was very little drinking going on at all because it wouldn't be the culture of the ethnicity going.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791307#Comment_119791307

It won't achieve that goal for many places but will achieve others.

KrustyUCC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791257#Comment_119791257

at least they're changing the Sunday hours to 10.30 instead of 12.30 for selling alcohol in supermarkets etc

Dyr

There's been far too many people drinking at home when they should have been putting money into the vitners pockets. Something had to be done.

Welcome to Ireland. Government is here to make sure that certain people always get their cut.

SEPT 23 1989

It will be quickly reversed once the pissed up,coked up scumbaggery is witnessed by people trying to start their days

dominatinMC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791180#Comment_119791180

Disagree completely. Raison d'etre? There are many many people (including couples) who go to a pub, club or whatever to meet other people (i.e. friends, colleagues), enjoy music, watch a match, etc. Not everyone is there on a date.

In my experience, ever since restrictions were lifted, pubs, late bars, etc. have been absolutely flying it. So either Tinder is down, or these places actually have another raison d'etre..

BagofWeed

The puritan nanny state scumbags are very upset. Good, its called freedom, something the anti everything brigade hate. Don't drink myself but will look forward to going out to a club once they're open. Hope they serve tea !

dominatinMC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791113#Comment_119791113

A laudable policy imo. Supermarkets have enough of the market, already running small shops out of business. But sure, some will cry that's the nature of the free market economy. I just see the big getting bigger, and town centres being hollowed out to make way for more Aldi, Lidls, Dunnes etc. I don't want to see the same happen to family pubs.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791386#Comment_119791386

You can still choose to drink at home you know.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791497#Comment_119791497

You can but you must pay the MUP and you must have bought it before 10pm from the forbidden aisle.

enricoh

Pubs are getting it hard enough to get staff nowadays, I can see many of them extending the hours as staff won't want to work later.

My local is on about closing mon-wed for the winter as it has gone quiet. There'll be as many reducing hours as extending!

hotmail.com

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791391#Comment_119791391

You obviously don't live in Dublin at the moment.

waterwelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791257#Comment_119791257

Pubs can open late as it is, via a bar extension. This is controlled as late bars tend to deal with drunker people and more volatile situations. The guards can block a late licence if its not run correctly.

This process will be streamlined and CCTV / professional security will be required.

Unfortunately they are trying to shoehorn in a one size fits all legislation, a rural pub drawing a small older crowd wouldn't nee bouncers to serve until 1.30am.

The law of unintended consequences is the one to watch here. A lot of pubs have been "hanging on" for years and might fold completely now, leaving certain areas with even fewer pubs.

PTH2009

Could get messy in the clubs esp with people so used to been totally pissed by 2am

Happy that the Sunday close of 11pm is going. A bloody stone age rule

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791583#Comment_119791583

Locals pubs won't be arsed getting a yearly extension and a bouncer to open for an extra hour or 2 twice a week, they'll just pull the shutters and keep serving like they are now.

waterwelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791627#Comment_119791627

Exactly. And they won't be jacking up the prices either for bouncers and extensions.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791607#Comment_119791607

I'm sure you will get ejits at first.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791583#Comment_119791583

I don't see how it adversely affects pubs as they will still be able to operate as before.

How does this do any damage to the rural pub ?

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791541#Comment_119791541

Funny the rest of Europe finds these staff somehow.

waterwelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791708#Comment_119791708

Because it seems a new pub may now open across the road from the existing pub, splitting whatever trade there was there.

Now I do know villages left with no pub at all, so this might be a good thing in these areas.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791497#Comment_119791497

I don't drink at all but, if you've been paying attention, the government have been jacking up the price of buying booze in shops and restricting the hours during which it can be bought

The vitners need their payback for lockdown, this legislation is it.

Pubs can't find staff because they pay **** wages for unsocial hours and tend to treat staff like dirt. I know plenty of people that worked in the pub trade for years, jacked it in lockdown and are not going back.

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791708#Comment_119791708

How does this do any damage to the rural pub ?

It doesn't, but if Billy's bar in Borris on ossory has a fundraiser for the local GAA club, their options are a yearly license and a bouncer, or a lock in. It's the government trying to crack a nut with a sledgehammer when they could just extend Friday and Saturday hours.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791753#Comment_119791753

That is the exact same as the options they have now is it not.

This legislation doesn't seem to ban TEN's so I don't think they need a yearly late license.

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119791784#Comment_119791784

Yes, (except the bouncer requirement) which is why it's not much of a reform.