"Russian investigation confirms"... LOL, seems legit
“Russian investigation “
Russian investigation confirms children amongst the dead in a Ukrainian missile strike using HIMARS in an attack near Kherson. I really wish the western media would start to cover stuff like this.
I think in this case there is justification for a short occupation of Russia in order to remove all nukes and any means of producing them. After that, leave them and isolate them until they decide they want to behave. Years of looking over the fence enviously at Ukraine and the Baltics will soften their cough.
No, a different one in fact : this report is from the intelligence agencies of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
Well Wibbs, daunting a task as it is, then I guess they will have to be left to themselves, a pariah state, or maybe it will collapse into independent statelets.??? But Russia in its present format, will not work. Who will deal with them at a level that they will need to survive in the present world, business wise?
Russian army shelled Avdiivka overnight
The post (Nr 67265, by JoChervil ) mentions an alternative Govt, formed by Russians opposed to the war, and currently living abroad. Govt-in-waiting, if you like.
Really?
Russian state-controlled news agency Interfax reported, citing the Russian military, that more than 1.9 million Ukrainians have been forcibly deported to Russia since the start of the invasion, over 307,000 of them children — writes The Kyiv Independent.
And that's as of June 19th! If that rate had remained constaant, the number of kidnapped children in Russia would now be 643,365.
I reckon they would be worth going after.
😔Today, the occupiers took 16 children out of the Oleshkiv orphanage-boarding home.
No one knows what their future fate will be.
Is this what you are referring to - former Finnish Intelligence evaluation of Russia. Really interesting. There is a transcript of the lecture lower down.
https://the-culture-shocks.blogspot.com/2022/03/evaluation-of-russia-by-finish.html
Before ever you had covid or war deaths in Russia, you had a seriously declining Russian population. Putin has managed to make life unlivable for the majority of people, and the reaction of women of childbearing age has been to have less children. It's some testimonial of a society when for every 1'000 births, there are 500 abortions. And all thanks to Putin. To try to maintain population figures, the monster is kidnapping thousands of Ukrainian Children.
And that's the problem right there JM. IMHO you're up against a deeply engrained culture, a "national character" if I were to use a sledgehammer generalisation, where things ebb and flow around the edges but has a core that remains remarkably consistent over time and that core seems to want autocrats and "Others" to blame. And of course the succession of autocrats have convinced them that's what they need. That's decades even centuries of conditioning.
So putin goes and then you'd have to remove all the minions he installed down the years including the head of the Russian Church. Good luck with that. You'd have to remove all the media pundits who've been shilling this "national character" and revisionist history. Then you'd have to change the school curriculum. You'd have to change the mindset of a lot of the population.
Lads there's no justification for invading Russia and foreign rulers installed unless they go on a nuking spree which they won't unless Russia itself is invaded. And even at that it would only be a last resort if they can't defend themselves.
There's no justification for invading Iran, north Korea or anybody to try instill your way of thinking. The best way to do this is economically. Cut all ties and refuse to do business.
If you do you're no better then Putin and what he's trying in Ukraine. I was never a fan of the yanks and Brits invading Afghanistan or Iraq.
I was reading an interesting article recently about how Baltic intelligence chiefs regard Russia as a dysfunctional basket case, perhaps one of the most dysfunctional societies on the entire planet. It would / will take one hell of a transformation to bring them even close to being a normal European country. They've had several hundred years of authoritarian rule with virtually no interruptions. The place is almost brutalised.
Just boards' messed up draft system doing it's thing.
Nikolai Patrushev, 70, head of Putin’s security council.
You have your opinion, and I have mine. I find the idea perfectly acceptable.
Japan during/after WWII is not comparable to Russia now, that is nonsense you are speaking. Back in the mid-40's it was acceptable for a state to take control of another for the good of the west, but that isn't the case now. You're tarring all Russians with the one brush here, and think they all need to get some sort of message?
Work their bodies.. well there sure is lot of that to work:
There is no succession plan for after Putin as far as any opinion I've read on it. Seems he simply hasn't bothered to groom a successor. It's not not like when Yeltsin resigned.
There would probably be a power vacuum if Putin went now and all kinds of chaos.
But there is no ‘opposition’ in Russian politics…..???
Because what worked for fixing Japan after WW2 was to have the country run by foreigners for decades until they got the message. It worked. Russia will revert to type, otherwise, which is authoritarian dictatorship.
?? What's that got to do with Russian warplanes crashing?
Love it.
Why shouldn't a government be formed by Russians, there are plenty in Russia who aren't for the Putin regime.
It points to two things:
Fatigue- Both in reference to the airframes as many jets now have to perform a large number of sorties- but also for the pilots as they have to work their bodies around intense schedules.
Lack of maintenance- Preventative maintenance is a vital part to maintaining any aircraft. During a war the increased need for sorties means that preventative maintenance is now a secondary priority. For more modern aircraft such as SU-30 it can also be impacted by a lack of available western electronics.
Priority in Ukrainian reconstruction and restitution will come before any kind of acceptance of Russia back into the fold once more. But the Interantional Community will let them stew for a long while first and make them prove that they have changed their ways. The International bailout terms we got here in Ireland, will pale into insignificance compared to what the financial markets will impose on Russia, assuming that the even get involved. When Russian history is written for this century, Putin will prove to be the most destructive individual, in how much destruction he has wrought on Russia itself.
Yeah, I think honest foreign nationals are going to have to be imported to do the job too.
Wish I shared your optimism. I've spent 10 years hearing about how Assad is about to be gone. Most of my life hearing about the Kim Dynasty. Xi in China has just consolidated so much power as to put him on practically the same level as Mao.
Putin is not going anywhere. If he does step aside it will be his choice and he'll be replaced by someone subservient to him (like his lap-dog Medvedev)
What a pity... that's second such 'accident' in recent weeks. What does this point to? Just a statistical consequence of a far greater number of missions being flown or possibly poorly serviced aircraft, flown by inexperienced pilots?