It is a game,do we let Putin get away with peace talks so he can take his occupied areas?Ukraine becomes slaves to Kremlin so Putin can continue his genocide and steal Ukraines gas reserves?
He can continue his nuclear blackmail against his next victims and invade more countries?
I wonder who is next?
Maybe better to stop him now
What drivel, Russian people actually listen to this?
Are you trying to say that rightwing factions in Europe are caused by US interference? So the rise of Nigel Farage, the Brothers of Italy, Victor Orban, the AFD, the True Finns are somehow the result of American meddling?
I'd like to know what it is you're smoking.
<y money would be more on meddling from further East.
An absolutely massive point you're missing out on there is that extreme right wing factions have made serious headway in the USA over the last ten years, and don't just stand a chance of getting back into power, but would like to upend the whole US political system altogether. So, the point I'm making here is that right-wingers making inroads isn't a phenomenon restricted to Europe, and is happening for much the same nebulous reasons as it's happening in the US - the lasting effects of the Great Recession, immigration concerns, energy scarcity, inflation, culture wars, online disinformation and so on. It's not part of some master plan by the US to destabilise Europe, unless part of that genius plan is for the US to destabilise itself in the process.
It remains that Russia has far more to gain out of a destabilised Europe. They're the ones who would like to reshape the world order, whereas the US already has the world order more to its own liking.
You think the Yank struck wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, the various Yank/Russian backed takeovers in Egypt, Syria, Libya et al have had no destabilizing effect towards the current climate within the continent of Europe? What the f**k have you been smoking? Mowldy mushroom Cabbage?
Whatever it was, it reached colossal temperatures. What was in the tanks I wonder? I've seen concrete burning for hours after a bombing, something I thought impossible, and that reminds me of it. Aside from propaganda, they will not be able to restore that railway bridge to any useful level of service any time soon.
I'm not so sure. Most of the Russian defence lines consist of networks of trenches, defended with machine guns and artillery emplacements a little further back. Infantry on their own, or in lightly armoured APCs and technicals would suffer heavy losses without tanks. It looks like the Russians are digging tanks in because of fuel shortages, so they aren't able to advance much in the last month or so, this is the perfect opportunity to assemble large tank and infantry attacks to steamroll over the trenches. Ukraine can't settle in to a stalemate and their Javelins and NLAWs aren't going to win back territory like tanks will.
I couldn't give a monkeys f**k what happens over in America briany, let them eat each other for all I care. Same way they treat us in Europe. But you defend their actions as if they have your best interests at heart, news for you man, they don't.
Yes, and basically wasted them. Something they might have cause to regret down the road, when they might need them for more important military targets.
Most of those countries were/are completely unstable for decades, held together by tyrannical dictators. If you think that the inevitable passing of these dictators would have been a smooth ride for those countries, or the rest of the world, then I'm just going to laugh in your face. They were waiting to explode for decades.
When the Russians were unable to properly supply their soldiers during the summer, imagine what the winter is going to be like for them.
The thing with alot of people that cheer on these wars is the only time they have seen conflicts up close is on their tv screens. They haven't seen the destruction air strikes cause and the utter carnage and terror it leaves behind.
Its quite hypocritical also that the same posters on here that cheered the destruction of civilian infrastructure in Crimea are the same ones bemoaning it when its happening in Kiev.
Most of those countries were unstable for decades because they were propped up by Yank backed rule or other form of intervention. Jesus Christ, Gaddafi was claimed by the Yanks and the Brits as an ally literally one year before he was raped up the arse by a Al Qaeda bayonnet while both establishments watched it online and laughed
Countries act in their own national interest, first and foremost. There are no particular illusions about that. If it were in the American interest to have a weak, exploitable Europe, there would have been an American policy towards that since at least 1945 when the continent was on its knees from war. Yet America has co-existed with a prosperous Europe since that time with seemingly little issue.
The bridge was used to supply Russians illegal invasion of a sovereign country.
A bridge going to Crimea which was illegally invaded also.
Ah, back to Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya: whataboutery is the first refuge of the scoundrel. Can't you concentrate on Russia v Ukraine, which is what this is all about.
So in your belief "American policy" comes before your own nations policy? Good to know man, good luck with that. Come back to me in a years time, see how it's working out for you. Unless you are an American and not Irish, then I'm quite sure this will work out for you just fine.
The funny thing is, I used to believe this kind of nonsense too, it must be an extended teenage thing. I eventually grew out of it in my 30s. Hearing people spout this kind of stuff in 2022 is like waiting to tell someone that WWF wasn't real wrestling. Like I was, you aren't considering the root of the problem, the inherent instability in clan/tribal systems trying to collectively prop up a state level government. Yes, the US and the UK held the view that strong tyrants were a less worse option than anarchy and feudalism. The problem is they are held together by charismatic/psychopathic leaders who eventually die and leave an extremely volatile power vacuum.
I get it now: you are just consumed by hatred of America, which has warped your judgement (like some members of the European Parliament I could mention).
I see the "Yeah but America" brigade have woken up again.....
Nah E, I'll concentrate about it all because every facet of it has resulted into the $hitshow we now currently reside in. The Russians know full well how to utilise it, better catch up or they will ultimately win. Do you want that or no?
I just hope they all have their homework done for the morning.
Yeah, lets just ignore every facet of history and its consequences for the sake of virtue signalling. That worked out well in the past.
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And mainly used by civilians?
By your logic it would be ok for Hamas to target civilian infrastructure in the West Bank or any of the occupied territories in Israel? That ain't gonna wash.
Built illegally, following an illegal invasion, used to supply a war effort to extend Putin's lebensraum.
You have far more growing up to do, and history to read, because the solution you propose ultimately ends up in a never ending cycle of violence that has plauged the planet for more than 300 years (arguably more). The violence suits certain agents that can benefit from it. You on the other hand, will not benefit from it, no matter how much you cheerlead it.
Based on the MAD doctrine. Which would of course spell the end of Putin and his Russia too. Do you think that's likely to happen? The west has stated that even if Putin launches a nuclear strike. they will reply with conventional weapons. So, if anyone starts a nuclear exchange, it will be Putin.
Putin is a mad man of course he could use them and the hawks in the U.S are equally as mad.
Most military analysis since the weekend has been about the fact that the Kerch Bridge was / is vital to resupplying the Putin forces in Ukraine.
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