It's all falling apart alarmingly fast for Boris Johnson across the water. How long you reckon he has left as British Prime Minister? Hours surely?
How many parties are they talking about now? I've lost count.
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You're going to have to point out where the "disinformation" and "toxicity" is in my post I'm afraid.
Are you suggesting the the guy running the company that actually drilled the fracking wells in the UK is lying about the practicalities of fracking in the UK?
And are you saying that there is absolutely no history of Tory donors winning oversized contracts to do things that are needed or wanted in the UK?
Please quote me where I said that Labour are perfect and Corbyn the saviour.
Deflection as usual. You are trying to blame Corbyn, the man was never in power and never looked likely to be in power. The tories have, in contrast, been in power for the last 12 years and yet the person you want to blame is Corbyn?
Still, at least you have accepted that everything is in chaos, hence the need to find somebody else to blame. Its a step along the way I suppose
meanwhile bringing jobs to Lancashire
now where was that red wall again?
well for starter you posted an opinion piece and portrayed it as fact. it isn't a news article and has only one opinion, that of someone who was ousted from a fracking company 8 years ago. There is no counter argument, but it has been written in a way to make it look as if the government is doing this purely for self gain.
then you added a little bit of venom about donors for some reason. Donors to all parties get government contracts regularly. except in the case of fracking, it will be a license, not a contract so the they won't actually be getting paid, but no doubt words like "chums" will be bandied around ad infinitum
The people of Lancashire don't want fracking though.
I was a huge Corbyn fan and even I moved on.
You are the only person still cares about Corbyn
You can always count on boards to churn-up people that will defend absolute rank-stupidity, an economic and political death-cult spiral even as the grand narrative of their pet theories burns around them.
They're like those Japanese holdouts still living in the jungle stroking their rifle eating berries two decades after the war.
I don't support fracking, but this isn't about some Tory donor getting a plump contract, as people would have you believe. The Bowland Shale field goes right from the Irish Sea to the southern North Sea and would be seen as an effort to bring jobs to the area.
Lets face it, large parts of those areas would still be mining for coal if they had their way.
the man was never in power, but he made the Labour party completely unelectable. They failed spectacularly at being the opposition.
Leaving out the SNP, Parliament as a whole failed the British people and the two main parties need to take the blame for that.
Let me dumb it down
The
People
Of
Lancashire
Don't
Want
Fracking!
Trust me, I Live here, I'm in Lancashire every single day, I talk to people in Lancashire every single day. There will be no "local consent" for fracking in any part of Lancashire.
Well if you want her to fuk you just move to the UK.
She is fuking practically everyone over there.
since when did Lancashire stretch from the Irish Sea to the North Sea?
I never said it did, I'm speaking about Lancashire, you bought Lancashire into the conversation when you said
"meanwhile bringing jobs to Lancashire"
I'm of an age where I still remember the protests at the Wytch Farm oil field and the people of Dorset definitely did not want it there. Now people barely know it exists.
I used Lancashire as an example, because that is where the current wells are, but this is about being seen to bring jobs to an area that the Tories would love to keep hold of and not, as some people would have, some scheme to give a contract to a Tory donor, that is just more toxicity.
It doesn't matter what I think, though.
Ultimately, whether real or perceived, Truss and Kwarteng will be held responsible for what's happening on the markets. I actually think there were some very sensible elements in the budget, but the markets reacted and whether we like it or not, that will mean those at the top will pay a political price.
Furthermore, I still believe the Tory's were in error to ditch Boris. Even with his flaws, Johnson still had a better chance against Starmer at the next election. Ditching him and going through this needless leadership contest, as well as all the consequences of the mini-budget, would have been averted. After all, Sunak would have still been chancellor.
Nobody can predict whether Johnson would have lost out to Starmer (he may very well have), but I'm confident he would have stood a greater chance against Starmer than Truss will have.
This thread would make you despair at the two-party politics that define so many countries.
It's about keeping their fossil fuel friends on their side to keep the donations coming in.
No one is going to vote for fracking in their back garden, how will they get "local consent" for fracking to go ahead? A Russian type "referendum" maybe?
I think this may be the first time I have ever agreed with anything you have posted.
Do you think all the people here who are criticizing Truss are only doing it because they are Labour?
Do you think it is unjustified criticism ?
There is no perceived they are responsible.
Loving the new line of making all of this seem like an act of nature. Your slipping in of the idea that this isn't anyone's fault just an inevitable situation.
I wouldn't call it a crush but I definitely would.
It's well-deserved criticism. I hate the Tories. The deflection with Labour is what I'm talking about.
"I actually think there were some very sensible elements in the budget, but the markets reacted"
So, very sensible; just not sensible enough to realise that the markets would react in the way that they did? Or, they knew what would happen and did it anyway? Sensible all round.
The UK badly needs some sort of PR voting system.
Starmer has said he wants it, but has gone quiet on the matter.
We had a poster arguing that first past the post produces better governance in the UK only the other week. How's that looking now?
Prepare yourself for the offended headlines shrieking about how Labour are going to raise taxes, cut spending and borrow more when they come into power and struggle to plug the gaps in the public finances caused by this Tory administration.
Who would have thought that some day it would be Tories crying about "a very British coup"
You think that's bad wait until they arrest all the cis women and put them in gender reassignment camps.
Wait? Everyone is a raving lefty because they have the temerity to call you out on your nonsense?
The last thing the country needs is chaos with Keir Starmer. What it needs is stability with Liz Truss.
that's a bit of a daft statement, it's like saying that everything Labour does is about keeping the unions on side so they can keep the donations coming in.
Like I said, I don't agree with fracking, I think it is too risky, but the British Geological Survey top estimate are that there could be an absolute shed load of gas in that field, which is conveniently positioned across an area that needs a boost. No politician other than the Greens are going to ignore that.
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