Why would you nuke something you want. And the wind tends to blow the wrong way.
I'm sure she will be along to tell us how to recognise them. Is it like a game where veterans have stars above their heads and new troops a bar ?
bah damn you parody.
People will believe anything if it confirms their prejudices.
A few people here were also very quick to label the awful school shooting a few days ago a false flag attack that would be used to escalate the war in Ukraine....silence about the topic since
No, you mistakingly think you agree with me - there is no difficulty establishing that Putin is "off the charts" wrong.
After thought / addendum / post script / elaboration
All unheard of concepts, bizarre indeed 🙂
Putin has made a threat and it's being taken very seriously by some very serious people. It's a valid element of this conflict and so it's valid to include it in the discussion. Stop with the self appointed gatekeeping.
Story is clearly made-up.
Gate keeper I'll add that to my diplomatic passport
Russia has apparently put blocking forces in place to stop any russian retreats,
So it's either run towards Ukrainian positions and get anilated or try to fall back and get killed by their own.
Novo Amnestya, formerly known in the west as..
So you post something then you retract your observation. Then do my thinking for me. Ok
A piece of advice for some. If you see it on Twitter/ Telegram / Tiktok or similar, please have a quick check before you lose your ****
It's not 1943, the Ukrainians are prepared to take prisoners I thought?
Well they can take in some if they like. But I would not be proactively taking them. Leave them to it in a no mans land mad max style im sure they will thin each other out fairly sharpish when booze becomes a hot commodity.
They are but the amount of dead russians being stacked up suggest not everyone is on the same hymm sheet
The EU warning of retaliation for the gas pipe lines attack. This could get of hand very quickly indeed. Might need more than the Irish fishermen to defend the transatlantic communications cables for the foreseeable.
Some reports coming from Germany that they are assuming NS1 and NS2 may never be repaired or work again.
German security authorities assume that the three tubes of the Baltic Sea pipeline Nord Stream 1 and 2 will be forever unusable after alleged acts of sabotage . If they are not repaired quickly, a lot of salt water will run in and corrode the pipelines, the Tagesspiegel learned from government circles.
And of course that makes sense, as soon as the gas stops flowing the water rushes in, wonder how far the water could travel before a cut off point?
Saying it for weeks now but Twitter is an absolute toilet. I guess it's a sign of how gullible people have become that anyone at all takes it at face value.
Who's going to want to pay to fix it only be to bent over another barrel in a few years .
Heed uncle Joe's warning
Clearly they must be warning the US. Biden better watch it.
Ahhhhh, I see now where you took a wrong turn off the logical path.
What I actually said was "both sides are seldom equal".
So, it's an endorsement rather than a retraction !
I totally disagree with your initial, lame, "ah, sure we're all God's children" approach.
And you're offering a crutch.
Sea water on the inside would be catastrophic imop. Also you could have 100s of meters of micro fractures now.
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Yes indeed, and I have an excellent example to show you. A while back, Russian Navy ships appeared off the Cork coast. Now, most ships have a transponder system called ATIS, which again, gives its location. Now, none of the Russian Navy ships had transponders switched on. However, their fuel ships, or oilers, did. They follow the Navy flotilla and top up fuel when needed. Now, here is where a bit of OSINT came into play this morning, just for you!
One of these oilers we know to be the Akademik Pashin. This very ship was showing up on Marine Traffic ( the tracking site) off Cork. So, the question is, where is she now?
Well, if you search for Akademik Pashin on Marine Traffic, it shows her off the Coast of Cyprus. Now, how do we know that Navy ships are with her? Well, it so happens that Forces.net wrote an article 7 days ago, and I quote:
"Russia has signed an agreement with Cyprus to give its ships access to the Mediterranean country's ports. The deal comes as tensions continue between Russia and Western countries over the Ukrainian conflict. Meanwhile, in an exclusive interview with Forces TV, the Cypriot foreign minister says the agreement is nothing new. Ioannis Kasoulides said it goes back to 1996 and denied reports that Russia wants to establish its own military base on the island."
Bingo, so there you have it. This demonstrates how OSINT is so important in this conflict. And, here is the screenshot to back up my observation:
Which logic would that be?
If the US did it then keeping it quiet would be next to impossible, someone in the chain would leak the details of who ordered it at some point, and the risks to losing Europe as allies against Russia are massive.
For the sake of selling more fuel to Europe, it would require Russian levels of stupidity for the US to carry out such an attack.
Seems the Russians want answers from uncle Joe
+1. Look, TBH, I wouldn't put anything past the US of A, if it served their interests. Let's face it, like any nation who could really and lord knows the US have done some bloody nasty stuff in the past in the service of their own interests. Political assassinations, interference in sovereign state's internal politics, aiding juntas and autocrats to quash opposition(QV much of central and south America), even backing drug lords that were poisoning their own inner city people, all the way up to inventing bullshít to invade sovereign states, mostly displacing or killing Brown people in countries most Americans couldn't point to on a map(they mostly use soft power with palefaces as hard power wouldn't track with voters, unless they're Russian).
However and it's a bloody big however, the US pulling some sort of half arsed "false flag" like this, that would get out sooner or later makes pretty much zero sense. If it turned out the US did blow up the pipelines, Russia could quite logically, rightfully and believably point at them and go "look the pricks are only out for themselves, whatever about Russia and Ukraine, they care nada about their NATO allies or the EU, so what use is your NATO and EU support now?". The cat would be out of the bag. Game over. Their NATO allies would utter a collective WTF??, the EU would be extremely unhappy, Germany in particular and support for Ukraine of the level it's at would be revisited at best.
Thing is, it makes no obvious sense for Russia either. OK it sends the message we can hit European infrastructure and sow confusion, but at the same time puts the kibosh on ever re-opening those pipelines in the future. Near future anyway. The only explanation that strikes me as plausible is that it was a way for putin to do a scorched earth on gas to the EU. He knows Russia's on the back foot, we won't be going back to them for gas anytime soon, and it sends a message to any potential doves in his circle or the Duma that "you can't give up and turn the taps back on and there's no going back now". Either way it's a very strong escalation.
But are they really "withering them to the bone" ? And will it ultimately work?
It seems money still talks, and there are some clever workarounds to some of the sanctions. I don't think the picture is very clear yet, just how these sanctions will pan out.
Here's another interesting video of a Russian mall with big brands that were apparently supposed to have left Russia.
This war will not continue forever .... blowing up something that will generate future income is not logical..... Both NS1 and NS2 were not operating anyway. No tactical or other gain would be met with Russia blowing this up. Could they have done it ? ofcourse.
You assume the US cannot not keep this kind of operation quiet... I see no reason why not.
There is no logic anyway in blowing up the two pipes but I do see more advantages from a US perspective then Russian.
But logic went out of the window when that idiot tried to take Ukraine the way he did in the first place, so who knows.
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