Renewables didn't provide 66% of Irelands energy last year. We could do without renewables, but not without fossil fuels. Ever wondered why those cheap renewables didn't lower your energy bills, that's because you/we are paying the wind farm owners the same price we would if that sometimes available electricity were being produced by possibly the worlds most expensive nuclear plant, Hinkley C. You simply won't belive how much you will be paying for electricity when they have built a couple offshore wind farms, which are way more expensive than the onshore ones we have that have driven up our energy costs.
I won't reply further as OT.
Re: Estonia moving tanks to the border
Btw, Estonia doesn't have tanks.
Have to agree with this. NS is one of putins ace cards, they hope that Europe's resolve will weaken, and that European states end up looking to get NS2 back online again. It wouldn't make sense for Russia to be behind this, if it is indeed sabotage.
A lot of stuff they do doesn't make sense.
Speculation on what's happening in Lyman from one of the best observers of the war.
Doesn't look good for Russia.
The Russians demonstrate the capability and willingness to blow up stuff on the bottom of the Baltic. Can you not see how that is blackmail? Hint: those are not the only energy supplying infrastructure assets at the bottom of that and other seas that Europe is hugely reliant on, particularly in winter.
And then there's the ones from the west coast of Norway:
I think the Nordstream ruptures are just the start of the Orcs energy blackmailing of Europe.
I wonder will we see the blowing up of LNG tankers headed for Europe as well? Just as they arrive within sight of the coast would provide the biggest spectacle, capable of burning people a couple of kilometres away.
I've heard this "we can sink their black sea fleet with conventional weapons in response to Putin using a tactical nuke" line a few times now and am in no doubt to it's accuracy but i don't get as to why it's viewed as less dangerous than using a nukes to destroy the black sea fleet. Russia would surely view that as a direct act of war anyway and respond with a massive ICBM launch at multiple western targets? It's not like they are going to say grand sure they didn't sink the fleet with nukes so it's all good.
Tell that to the Swedes, who get 60 percent of their energy from renewables. And EU average above 20 percent and rising...not bad for a hopeless technology
How to avoid being sent to Ukraine from Russia instructional video.......
Caution!!!!
They do now ;-)
It'd be fascinating to know what the Americans and Russians are really saying to each other right now. Because we know they are communicating ...
They do have some armor including IFVs often mistaken for tanks
Actually, not to be pedantic, but there are tanks in Estonia.
"As of 23 February 2022, there are 43 Warrior Infantry Fighting Vehicles and 18 Challenger 2 Main Battle Tanks deployed in Estonia. "
UK Defence Weekly.
They probably refer to a repositioning of the British armour to the border.
Pure delusion. Why would they blow up their own pipelines that they need to sell gas to europe to save their crippled economy?
Also, the locations of the ruptures in NS1 and 2 were just off swedish and danish territory. With all the baltic sea surveillance going on, any russian vessels would be watched like hawks departing from kaliningrad or near st petersburg.
The Danish energy agency said it had found two leaks on the Nord Stream 1 pipeline north-east of the island of Bornholm, and a third in the Nord Stream 2 pipeline in Swedish waters south-east of the island.
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The news magazine Spiegel, quoting government sources, said officials were not ruling out sabotage, designed to cause further uncertainty on Europe’s energy markets.
A European security source told Reuters news agency there were “some indications that it is deliberate damage”, adding it was still too early to draw conclusions. They added: “You have to ask: Who would profit?”
The drop in pressure comes after some politicians on the far right and far left of Germany’s political spectrum have started calling for Nord Stream 2 to be opened for gas deliveries to Europe, in defiance of Germany’s stated solidarity with Ukraine.
The only assertions that Russia sabotaged 3 of their own gas pipelines (crucial leverage against EU also) is from posters on here. It simply is not based in reality.
This is the leaks seen from a Danish F16,
Something like 1km across
Yup and I'd imagine that threat to annihilate the Black Sea fleet is not made in a vacuum.
What that threat is really saying is the west is all in once that nuke drops.
Which circles back to Medvedev saying the west is bluffing about backing up Ukraine. He thinks they won't, but then again, we don't think Russia will nuke Ukraine. Mad game.
Not necessarily. An attack on the Black Sea Fleet would certainly be part of a wider attack on Russian forces across Ukraine, together with Russian Command and Control.
Personally, I don't think it will come to this. The Russian Generals are not stupid. Through the established secret back channels between Russia and the US, I strongly believe that if things were about to come to a head, the Russian military would err on the side of caution. They certainly don't want to see the destruction of their country, their population ( civil and military), what remains of their forces and their cultural and heritage sites. At that stage, when the US gives them a heads-up ( and they will) and an ultimatum of the upcoming destruction, I believe that Putin will be compromised and a time-out will finally be called. Russia has too much to lose at this stage.
Putin: I want the East and the South of Ukraine now, the rest later. Don't send weapons to them. I have nukes.
Americans: You are losing to Ukrainians, your army is collapsing. Get out of the war, cut the losses, don't you see the longer it continues the more Russians are dying needlessly, your country's economy is ruined.
Putin: My serfs have failed me, I will mobilize more and send them in human wave attacks until Ukrainians are sick of fighting. You won't stop me, I have nukes.
Oh dear.
So Swedish 'renewables' is counting hydro and mudered trees.
NuCLeAr MINES....
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A powerful military industrial complex, needs enemies in order to justify it's existence. (one of many theories espoused)
I think Putin made tentative overtures for Russia to join NATO during the Clinton administration, but nothing ever came of it. He was quoted as saying that Clinton was open to such discussions, but the rest of the US delegation "got very nervous". Whatever that means exactly.
But then George Bush happened, and relations started to go south from this point. Big surprise there. I think it was around this time that Putin started using much more bullish rhetoric, like saying "Ukraine is not a country" etc. in response to planned NATO enlargement.
And to think, all bush ever really got was a shoe thrown at his head. Remarkable really when you think about it.
Makes no sense whatsoever. Leave your personal feelings aside and think about this logically. Why in god's name would they blow up their two best methods of exporting gas into Europe? They've already cut off their nose to spite Europe's face by turning the gas off, blowing up the entire pipeline would make no strategic sense. It's like backing yourself into a corner and then cementing yourself there.
I rather agree with you, so the correct US response to the use of a nuke in Ukraine should probably be an all out first strike on Mordor. and their ballistic missile subs.
Well it's a red herring in the context of this thread but I wouldn't remotely be surprised if the energy industry comes up with some other solution in a decade or two. To churn the market again and all these huge wind turbines will be left to crumble away as industrial eyesores.
Ah no, an attack by Russia on commercial tankers could only happen in the context of open war with the 'west'. Many steps to that and events that could intervene.
@Run Forest Run . I think it was around this time that Putin started using much more bullish rhetoric, like saying "Ukraine is not a country" etc. in response to planned NATO enlargement..
Nonsense.
He's only started the Ukraine is not a real country , Ukrainian is not a real language
Very much recently.
Russia blowing up LNG tankers, especially just off the cost with casualties on land, would be considered an act of war against the country to which the gas is destined. We've quite a long way to go before anything like that could be considered a possibility.
Maybe, but it's an additional step they can signal, and subsequently take.
At present they have threatened massive conventional use, and that won't change.
Europe does not import energy from Russia, it imports fuel so they are very much still responsible for it (otherwise we'd be talking about Saudi Arabia as the biggest polluter in the world). Peterson's comments are simply exactly as stupid as they sound.
While it's not a smart move for Russia it's a very smart move for Putin, as he's removing any potential leverage whoever is going to replace him holds.
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