How do people feel about this one? Will it be short and sweet?
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if the unions bring a deal like that to ppl they will be doing themselves damage
Filiball at the pay talks
“The bums will always lose, @Mr lebowski “
Agreed as somebody who came from a senior position in the private sector where new entrants where paid penny's I don't think I want to be senior in the CS if all my CO'S are going to be depressed or to stressed to work.
It'll be revolving door for the lower paid workers allowing the workload to be pushed up the ladder causing a **** show got those in higher grades.
I think an all-in-all pay rise of 8.5% over the next 15 months would probably be accepted by most memberships.
Where are you getting 8.5% from?
i think grouping the detail of the last few deals in is to elide the fact that these talks were reconvened for exceptional reasons which have been ignored
i dont think it will fly
It's in addition to the 1% increase received in February and the other 1% due in October. I suppose a further 7.5% from today if you exclude the February increase.
many workers didnt get the 1% in feb for various reasons...
RTE reporting that there are additional measures included for lower paid workers, which I fear may just be the existing 1% or €500 that's due in October but you'd never know.
You're right, we've to pay the private sector employees 7% out of our "grossly inflated" salaries.
Whatever it is. I won't be striking.
I've bills to pay and a family to feed.
Not in the union so won't have a say on whether its accepted or not.
6.5% is not near enough. I'll also be voting to strike
Looks an awful offer.....electricity bill will hoover that up alone...
I would do the same. A minimum of 11% is required
Vote strike
Just back from the post office?
Would have to agree I would have to wonder what the appetite for strike action is when bills still need to be paid and we are facing into a horrid winter of ever rising energy prices.
If they do strike they should learn from last time and just take out anything that impacts public (passport, dole, tax office etc). One day strikes were a waste of time and loss of income last time around
Today is Tuesday.
Only out of bed? Give yourself a chance to wake up.
I would do the same though. You should all go on strike
Sources yesterday were indicating that the initial Government offer of 5% split over two years would not be enough to get agreement.
It is understood that the State offered a further 1.5% which would be “front loaded” in October.
So 4% in october?
Problem with all these increases is that they effect my eligibility for a medical card which is worth a lot more to me than a few percent increase
Plus the 1% already agreed I assume, so 5% on 1st October and 2.5% sometime in 2023.
I cant see this deal going anywhere.... if it is frontloaded to 4% to include the 1% already agreed that leaves only 2.5% for next year with inflation at least 7-8% forecast for 2023.
yeah it looks that way...
Does the 6.5% not include the already agreed 2% so that gives 8.5% over the two years?
For me, 6.5% plus the 1% in October is 'near to enough but not enough'.
Were there to be extra increases for COs, new negotiations in October next year and a substantial widespread package to lower the cost of living for lower income workers in Budget 2023, I might vote in favour.
There might be the first two, but I don't think FG/FF will have the balls to change enough in the Budget. Big few months for this government.
I'd take that, presuming it is 6.5% across the board.
Push for 11%
Get ahead of inflation. Don't sell yourself short. Private sector employees are all getting large increases. Should be no different.
I'd be happy enough with 6.5% and the additional 1% in October that we are due from the last deal. Based on that I won't be striking either. That's 7.5% over 16 Months or so. What's not to like?
People who are calling for the deal to be dismissed out of hand. What exactly would you accept? There is no point talking about matching inflation. We can't do that as a country. It won't work.
The best we can now hope for in the budget is for reductions in various taxes and Vats too.
11% over two years wouldn't be close to inflation.
We have an offer of 4% for this year.
We have an offer of 2.5% for next year.
We have to decide if both of those are sufficient.
People saying private sector got way more already.
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