So the balls-up has started since last night which makes Fairview from clontarf to Edges corner a single lane with bollards down the centre.
This will be a permanent feature and works will take 21 months.
'all-inclusive'? you're the one excluding yourself, based on a demonstrably false premise.
the bitching in this thread !
I dont drive to work but this closure is nuts on a road that already has a fat 2 lanes in each direction . What's the betting they will try and keep it barred to cars after they are done . 6 months sounds like a massive time for something likes this.
Post pandemic showed clearly people getting back in their cars and having to drive in them, not cos they wanted to .
A false premise? Is the premise not to reduce car access all over this city? Including the phoenix park.
I tell you what magicbastarder, when you find yourself living with a permanent mobility limiting disability and qualify for a blue badge, come back and talk to me about "choosing" to exclude myself.
Believe me, I'd love nothing more than to be able to walk whatever distance to public transport, or hop up on a bike, but for some it's just not an option.
Literally tons of parking for you all over phoenix park. That is certainly one place you are absolutely not excluded from and to try to claim otherwise is utter nonsense
People are really over-inflating the effect of this.
I think people are actually enjoying the drama tbh
When they are done, it'll have been built to have a lane of traffic inbound. Do you really think they'll build an inbound lane, and then just tell people it's not going to be used after completion?
This is standard in Dublin for road works, do you remember luas Cross City project? Have you a better traffic management option?
"Having to drive in them, not cos they wanted to"
What have you based this on?
Your claim about there being no parking in the phoenix park is false though and that was the point.
100% you don't get nearly as much whinging over the dozens of other such closures in the past decade
It's because this is being reported as a cycling project, so it hits all the trigger buttons. Eamon Ryan, Greens, Owen Keegan, businesses failing, people so old they're about to die but can still drive somehow. It actually makes for great entertainment.
The Phoenix park is inaccessible!
People are only capable of observing a small % of the facts and the facts they chose to absorb are: closure, diversion, cycle lane and €68m
The watermain which is the reason for the bulk of excavation works is ignored. The new pedestrian and bus facilities are ignored and the North bound car access is ignored
How so? Plenty of people were parked there, in the various car parks, and enjoying it last time I looked!
the melodrama is strong in this one
Someone else said that. Even though they hadn't been there in a long time.
It is a very very cheap water main
One of the jewellers comments was about a dead customer of his, and how he couldn't get on a bike to cycle to his store. You couldn't make it up.
Pedestrian and bus facilities aren't ignored. Plenty of people think that they were more than adequate as they were, and felt there was no need to change them. Same people who also said the public travel system wasn't good enough for people to ditch their cars.
Well that’s not me because I go there every week
whereas you’ve just taken the incorrect view that it’s inaccessible, and not tried
anyway, this is a thread about fairview. If you want to wallow in your misery about being supposedly barred from phoenix park, go for it
He was being facetious due to another poster's comments about the Phoenix Park being totally inaccessible now. There are 1000s of parking spaces however.
he was taking the mick out of a different poster who said there was no, or little to no car parking in the PP.
This road is being closed (one way and for cars only) for a year because of the water main works, NOT because of the cycling or bus lane improvements.
If it was just the cycle lane and bus lane, it would likely be just for a couple weeks, maybe a month or so. But water main works take much longer.
I saw the same happen up at Griffith Avenue where they have only recently finished working on the water mains on part of the road for nearly a year. One lane was closed for almost a year.
Having seen the works up close it is a major job, the water main pipes are impressively large, I mean they looked large enough you could fit a car through them! Now imagine digging up the road and craning in and out massive concrete pipe sections like these, big job.
In fact the completion of a new bike lane on Griffith Avenue has been delayed for more then a year due to these water main works.
I suspect we will see closures like this all over the city over the coming years due to the need to upgrade water and sewage mains, due to the age of our water network and the serious leaks it has.
There is a whole thread about the Phoenix Park, and what a mess it now apparently is.
I'll leave you to it. If I want to go to a park, I'll just go to Tymon North. Not so much bullshit around cars and parking there.
^^😋
Apologies! Was too dry for me.
it’s amusing to me that people make their minds up on things, go off on misguided rants, based on a few misleading click bait headlines. Whether relating to fairview or phoenix park.
Enjoy it. It’s a grand little park. And not as many feral deer
I notice the bus lane on North Strand inward from Fire Station has now gone 24 hour today.
I don't think there are 24 hour buses, are there? Perhaps this is to make sure they can prosecute anyone in a private car chancing a run through.
I haven't noticed what the signs at Annesley Place junction have changed to - presuming they will have to be left turn only, even though currently there is no left turn allowed there. Now that I think of it, there will be very little traffic coming down there. Will people still be able to go Poplar Row to East Wall Road?
15 is 24 hour through there.
The 15 is 24 hours there.
Elsewhere across the city the C1, C2, C5, C6, N4, 39a and 41 are all 24 hour, with the new G1 and G2 routes to follow in October.
Does anyone have a twitter account to tag the Garda account in showing Marty using his phone while driving?
I firmly believe that his shop was doomed and if it wasn't a cycle lane, he'd have found something else to blame other than his own management! If a jeweller is that knowledgeable of his customers then, he doesn't have many customers!
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