How do people feel about this one? Will it be short and sweet?
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You'll just have twice as much work to do when you do return.
Those smart enough to have private medical insurance won't be affected. WFH means last minute childcare is not needed. How does that single mother manage on the many weather related school closures?
If some form somewhere is not filled in for a few days, noone would even notice.
Grand so, tell the people who've been waiting years for their medical appointment So What. Tell the single parent of young kids who can't WFH So What. Tell the meat factory owner who can't produce without the veterinary inspector So What.
Oh so what.
The work will still be there when the workers return. You'll just have twice as much to do when you do.
The sun will still rise in the morning.
Loss of teaching and medical services. Has it escaped your attention this happens all the time anyway? Appointments cancelled, snow days, inservice days, etc.
Those smart enough to have private medical insurance won't be affected. WFH means last minute childcare is not needed.
You seem to have forgotten the other side of the equation entirely, the impact of the loss of public services - the loss of medical services, teaching services, park services, beach services, court services, safety inspection services, health inspection services and more. The strike scenario is far from pain free for government.
One experience at one company at one point in time.
Meanwhile in the real world every single SME and every single large employer are not putting up every single employees pay in every single position in every single company at the same time just because of inflation.
Yet this is exactly what the public sector expect for themselves.
Companies who are highly profitable and with employees who are outperforming and in demand are most likely giving pay rises in the private sector . It's not across the board as per my example. No way
This is a fantasy version of the private sector.
When I was in the private sector my and every colleagues pay went up every year by a few grand. I worked in this company for 7 years. We weren't all brilliant.
Private sector are not getting pay increases just because inflation is high.
Not a hope in hell of it. Pay rises are currently and always have been related to individual performance and business profitability.
Exactly.The tax bands are being adjusted as inflation is effecting pay and more people in private sector are moving into top band. If the Public sector aren't getting an the same increases linked to inflation I don't see how changing tax bands is fair to public sector workers(ensuring private sector keep inlfation gains while public sector receving nothing)
Across the upper end of the board, more like. Changing tax bands does precisely the square root of **** all for anyone not already in the higher bracket.
1%, woohoo! 🙄
It's only 1% in October!
I am hoping so yes, as the new deal was meant to replace this but it's not in place yet.
So does the previously agreed 2% due this October still go ahead irrespective if the negotiations or is that on hold now
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This is a much better and fairer solution across the board.
It appears Leo Varadkar is also looking to take the wind out of the unions sails by announcing significant income tax cuts with a lower tax rate. That will leave workers with more money in their pocets that will benefit all workers. Makes it easier for the Government to tell unions to p*ss off and limit pay increases to more modest amounts. Not the inflation busting demands from unions.
So you think a 1-2% increase will be happily accepted when other major employers are giving 3-4x that
Dream on...
Not to mention how your losing more each passing day as prices continue to rise. The more the unions press for, the easier it is for the Government to play hardball and refuse to give in. Saves having to pay out the more modest increases they proposed. Win.
thanks for that input ☺️
fyi the strike days lost would also be taxed genius
5% this year is what for CO's? Less than 20 euro a week after tax etc
I think the Unions are doing okay. The government said they wanted to strike a deal before the budget. They talked of an improved offer then just went silent on us for months and now they're off for their summer break. I think it's been really badly handled by the government and inflation has only increased since, making it even more difficult.
3.5% just won't cut it for this year. Forget about next year for now.
Honestly with no sign of movement I'm getting annoyed they didn't at least agree to put the 3.5% in October and 2.5% next year to members to vote on. With negotiations, ballots and payroll delays we will be lucky to see any increase in 2022 come through to pay cheques at this rate. A bird in the hand etc.
So you strike for two or three days and get an extra 1% or 2% each year forever. Obvious choice really.
When on strike, workers don't get paid. They lose a lot of money thoese days.
Any percentage increase they may get after that is before tax, so they only pocket what's left after tax, PRSI, USC.
Getting a large % increase after striking may not work out that much better than a more modest % without striking.
I've read that 3 times and still confused
If the Government get two or three good days of strike action out if the public sector will see any subsequent pay increase pay for itself.
Those huffing and bluffing about strike, have you actually done the sums on the days pay you'll lose and what you might gain after tax? It's probably not far off 1-2% in the first place.
Let them strike.
As for work to rule, when you time your work day down the last minute - 27th min past the hour is it - you're on work to rule anyway.
Why would she be unhappy profits are up to 37.2Million from 24.46Million in the last year.
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/1231/1269326-dunnes-northern-ireland-results/#:~:text=The%20most%20recent%20Kantar%20survey,m%20to%20%C2%A326.45m.
They already got over 10% when their pandemic bonus was made permanent. Margaret Heffernan will not be too happy
Dunnes Stores workers seeking a 7.7% pay increase
If it's not your union picketing you have to go to work.
What happens if some Unions decide to strike, say Fórsa, and others, say the AHCPS, don't?
Does everyone still go on strike or how does it work?
Public sector unions seek to ratchet up pressure on Government over new pay deal
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2022/07/19/public-sector-unions-seek-to-ratchet-up-pressure-on-government-over-new-pay-deal/
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