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Why are you missing the main point, which is how much will this housing cost? No point in announcing some good news if all the facts are not revealed.
Read the article
As I said it just the latest post with the same people laughing at the housing crisis and the people affected
of course while supporting a party who would have the entire country homeless if they could….it gets more and more embarrassing by the day on this thread
Way to look down on the great unwashed. Too low brow to have important opinions is it? I really can't stand the way the general public get put into boxes so they can be demeaned and dismissed. The general public are grand except any on social media, any protesting, any critical of government. Its very transparent.
As FF have already said, this is a crisis and all the parties should be helping to get houses built, not childish little games to block houses and then gloat when they delay people getting them. Disgusting carry on.
Sorry there is no way the like of FF or FG or their flunkies the Greens should be allowed enter more disastrous deals without being challenged. They've had over a decade to get it sorted. All we get is more of the same and them using their crisis to try excuse bad deals that enrich their friends. They can get fucked.
Precisely 👍 😏
File under 'lessons learned', A.K.A. 'we got caught, but we don't do accountability and won't be making any rules stopping it in the future'.
He won't say the price as they are not affordable to the majority of people
I made no reference to delays although happy to discuss those and who's ultimately responsible for that , my point which you again missed entirely, was Darragh's reluctance to discuss how much buyers will have to pay for social and affordable housing 🤔🤔 a question he's seems adept at avoiding despite all his bluster .
I doubt the 56 people who will get into their homes by the end of the year really care if you think it's a good news story or not.
Or the 80% of the 1,047 houses which will be affordable for people to buy, to those people I am sure it's a great story.
If the opposition had it way, none of them would be built at all. It's a pity that some parties would rather see people living on the streets/hotels etc while they play little games.
After all, would we be in such a problem in Dublin if DCC built any houses between 2014-2019?
I wil leave you to it, Im sure you will find something else to laugh at people stuck in the middle of the housing crisis. Not sure why anyone thinks it's funny for the people affected
I disagree, not all things are equal, consider the coffee houses of Vienna at the turn of the century (could there be a more egalitarian forum for people to meet and discuss politics), those places that were the hotbed of political and philosophical debates that would go on for hours or days at a time, the kind of places that Karl Marx (may he roast in hell) formulated his manifesto, lesser intellectual brutes such as Stalin were largely responsible for the consequences of implementation though (I suspect Stalin, like Trump, would have been popular on Twitter). These were at lest, places of considered debate and influence, for better and worse, the debates there were considered ones.
Twitter is the McDonalds of political debate to the Vienna coffee houses 12 course fine dining of debate. Do you really want policy formulated over a Big Mac? We live in an era of intellectually shallow fast food politics and it really shows in the bland and banal solutions on offer from the politicians we have that could barely debate their way out of a wet paper bag.
Meanwhile a supposed good news story as turned somewhat Sour for Darragh (yet again) Paschal perhaps regretting the photo OP 😏
I also get confused, trying to keep up 😁
This March O’Brien appointed Fianna Fáil TD Dara Calleary’s sister-in-law Patricia Calleary to the board of ABP and refuses to discuss the matter .
Meanwhile, pressure building
Seemingly FF planning (no pun intended) to put Darragh front and centre in defence of the Government in the up coming MONC , I'll have my popcorn ready 😏
I knew that and forgot. I know it is mentioned a few pages back. It gets confusing, as FG seem to have a habit of appointing unqualified chums to well paid positions, and have done it so often, one could be forgiven for forgetting which one was which. It's just another rotten appointment gone worse for them, they'll brush it off until some other entitled chum, decides they want (our) easy money too, and FG will create a new position.. Get 10+ years out of it and the sh*t will start to float again.. Like corpses on a dredged lake.
Phil Hogan appointed him and it should also be noted that Hyde is a close pal of Coveney. They once co-owned a yacht.
It seems his appointment was a bit questionable also. No surprises who was in charge when he was appointed so.. 🙄
RTE amazingly ignored this completely on Saturday with Katie (which is usually a good show tbf)
Spent 25% of the programme discussing Boris though
Mod - I'm seeing SF mentioned more and more in this thread, think it's time for a reminder to discuss SF in the SF thread.
Likewise discuss FF/FG/Green in this thread and not the SF thread
There are always external factors but its quite clear that FF/FG and their enabler the Greens, are using the tax payer to shore up the private profits of property investors. Its killing the publics chances of home ownership or affordable rentals. The longer it goes on the harder it will be to remedy. It needs to be stopped now. We will be living in a country were our own population are tenants to often foreign investment landlords while the state is forced to subsidies the renting working public. Its a short sighted greedy immoral agenda we find ourselves in. It will be at least another decade before the truth comes out, if ever, as to why FF/FG are really engaged in this behaviour.
The country is in a bad place though. And it’s going to get a lot worse no matter who’s in there. That’s the whole problem.
A, Kilcormac, know it well 😏
Indeed. There does be people dropping in the streets of kilcormac every winter.
Morning and thank you 😊
It's all very disturbing and I absolutely agree this is going to be costly and very ugly, I've no doubt lawyers being lined up, will we get to the bottom of this is the big question, I find the timing of departure, most curious 😉
I'm reminded of Laurel and Hardy
"Another Fine Mess" 🙄
This could ultimately prove to be extremely costly to taxpayers, because who knows how many planning decisions will now have to be reexamined now, legal proceedings and so on.
At least he resigned pending the outcome of his investigation though.
Belated birthday greeting dempo.
The Central Bank of Ireland should be, I am aware of no one else that does.
Bit of breaking News on that Troublesome ABP Matter .
Curious timing
Night all
Before I go to bed ,
The most important bit , which may have escaped your attention
The scheme is not be regulated by the Central Bank , but of course we also know what the central Banks opinion on this bizzare scheme is .
Red flags waving All around this before first application even approved.
Night night 😏
I've read past the headline.
"Like any financial product" yet its not regulated by the Central Bank. That is very strange. Who is it regulated by?
Thanks Suckit, appreciate it 😁
Were warings over Mica. Would not be very responsible to ignore them.
Why is it not regulated by the Central Bank?
So are you saying they shouldn’t print warnings? I don’t think that’s very responsible
