The judges in this country are a disgrace.
They should have no input to sentencing.
I bet this frucking moron judge doesn't take the Dart, where the feral children of the idle class run rampant.
I fail to see what you found shocking about this encounter. Sounds like they were having harmless fun and not posing a threat to anyone. It is perfectly understandable that someone would react like this when being unnecessarily lectured by a random person.
I hope you never get pushed under a train by a hang of feral scum.
There's a nastiness to a lot of them that seems to be worse nowadays. I was walking home through a park yesterday and there was a group of them about 20 or so teenagers, a mix of boys and girls from about 13 to 16, running around being rough and noisy. I'd seen them earlier in the day making a nuisance of themselves elsewhere. Anyway, one of the lads was running around with his arms inside his top like a chicken and an elderly lady who was walking ahead of me stopped to say something to him about how dangerous it was.
He very slowly and very loudly roared 'shut your mouth' at her. An absolutely scummy **** thing to do and it really shocked me. No doubt that scummy little dirt bag will be in prison in a few years like the rest of the dirt bags in his family. The others he was with thought it was hilarious. Really worrying to see that kind of attitude among youngsters. The park is in an apartment complex and none of them are from there, I've noticed there's more people getting those little home CCTV cameras for inside their windows so there must be a problem with them. Ironically it's right behind the Garda station, although the local cops are feck all use anyway.
Ah here, you’re ruining my outrage buzz !
Edit. The yoke who did the pushing should certainly do jail time.
You should read the report linked to in the OP. By the looks of it the child has acknowledged his atrocious behaviour and is making efforts to improve himself as a human being. The justice system tries to do that as well.
Sweet Jesus, can't believe i'm reading this.
It's exactly because of attitudes like this that these scumbags believe they can do what they want/when they want and walk away scot free.
The lunatics have taken over the asylum here...
Only the very worst of them get locked up under 18. He's under strictly supervised probation and of course now, at 18, eligible for the big house. Loss of face and being ratted out by the entire community must hurt him just as much.
No, they were self medicating with cannabis.
FFS, just for being this brazen in court they deserve jail time. Along with their solicitor/barrister.
Sorry, the excuse for the brawl is they were smoking cannabis?
Shortage of prison places plays a large part in sentencing here in Ireland. But even for a short time, he should have seen what jail time means. And the "Medicinal Cannabis" angle also. Was listening to the radio yesterday while a discussion was going on over the Armagh /Tyrone players behavior, and whoever the speaker was ( obviously medicinally qualified ) said that this type of behavior was typical of cannabis user behavior, a high spell of euphoria , followed by the inevitable downer, and while on it, no regular meals etc. which makes it much worse, and even more so in highly trained athletes.
or will get get some coals put on the ground so they can be dragged across them that wont solve the issues these people are facing but it will make you lot happy
yeah well I think you want to go back to the days of coporoal punishment, if someone has a problem and takes a wrong turn maybe we can get those things they put the head and hands in set up in town again and people like you can throw cabbages at them
Methinks you're trolling again :)
You seem to pop up on lots of threads with this type of stuff , Lisa Smith in ISIS: leave her alone, the poor woman had mental health issues.
3 year old hit by a scrambler bike: there's not enough scrambler tracks for the young people.
The recent brawl in Dublin airport: "probably addiction issues or mental health, hope they get the help they need".
As other have mentioned, its not a choice between letting them go or locking them up in a cell in an adult prison with Hannibal Lector.
Feral teens with a reputation for trouble in the area who knocked a girl under a train need some sort of custodial treatment, they've proven that society needs to be protected from them.
Boggles the mind.
Judge Martina Baxter said: “He waited 18 years to assault -with particular brutality- the victim. He lay in wait 18 years and assaulted not once, not twice but three times.
“I find this particularly reprehensible."
She then uses the word "chilling" in her summation.
Yet our boy walks away with a suspended sentence because he showed "remorse" (snigger), got a few letters signed (parish priest no doubt amongst them), and paid a few quid to the victim.
Lovely **** country.
Free legal aid no doubt. Allow 1 free legal aid per year, to keep the bleeding hearts and those idiots in the Irish Council for Civil Liberties happy, then these people might get sentenced.
Those are the cases judge like to make an example of when a jury is yellow enough to find them guilty.
Is anyone really surprised at this judgement though, really? Another day another pathetic judgement that sends a clear message to scumbags in this country that they can do as they please and get away with it. The judge should have hammered this guy, sent him to Oberstown for a spell. The fact that using illegal drugs to 'self medicate', nice way of his defence to get rid of the druggie aspect of the case, could be used as a mitigating factor is disgusting.
The Judiciary doesn't work in the interest of justice, it operates to provide a revolving doors policy of serial offenders providing work for Solicitors and Barristers. The fact that we can do nothing about Judges to remove them from the Bench when they are a problem doesn't help. That poor girl and the other people caught up in that violence will have left the Court with no justice whatsoever while the scumbags laugh at the Courts and no doubt get wasted and stoned with their equally scuzzy friends and family today. Probably on Social Welfare so that'll pay for his dope habit.
There will be no change in the ridiculous sentencing laws in this country until somebody goes full Gerard Butler from Law Abiding Citizen, and then gets prosecuted themselves.
You remind me of Lord Denning... the judge who was not particularly concerned if the Birmingham Six were guilty or not, since the probably committed another crime in any case.
Your title on this thread is a blatant lie, since the youth being sentenced was not the one who pushed the teenager on to the tracks as was evidenced on CCTV, commented upon by the judge and documented in the link you posted.
The youth, who faced sentencing today, made physical contact with the witness as she tried to get to the train. However, the judge noted that he had gone past when the second girl was knocked under the train.
Now I'm not happy about what happened, but I'll take learned judge's opinion over the ranting of someone who clearly does not know who justice must be applied any day.
Except the youth was not charged with that offence, another youth was. And the judge point out from the CCTV that the youth was not involved in that act.
I'm sick and tired to hear the deprived area and rough upbringing excuse. How is it fair to the parents who actually raise their kids right, if any of those kids were to make a stupid mistake them having decent parents will work against them?
And no, don't lock young people up when they do something stupid once, or maybe twice. House arrest will do. But from the 10th-20th conviction I would lock them up and throw away the key.
If only there was a middle ground between locking them all up and letting every young knacker off ...?
You mean the massive drop in crime during the 90s?
Yeah, jesus, we couldnt have that here.
Kids that age dont go to prison they go somewhere like oberstown house.
Didn’t work in America so we can’t have more prison spaces.
Didn’t work in Ballymun so we can’t build upwards anymore.
How about looking at the failures and learning from them, rather than just banning it??
put kids in jail and all that does is put them around people with substance abuse users and people with mental health issues who groom them into even worser situations so how is that a good thing? they tried putting everyone in jail in america and look how that turned out
A moment of madness that he walked away from and didn't stay to help.
what good does a suspended sentence achieve?
no whats nonsense is banging a child up in jail for a moment of madness who does that help?
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