Armagh have shown their true colours once more, they have been at this shite for years.
Hopefully the Armagh board wont be appealing the upcoming penalties against this incident like they did against Donegal.
Never heard so much rubbish talked about a minor incident on a sideline. Bar the gouging, which should be dealt with, it was a handbags incident that happens at times in all games, breaks up and players get on with it. Deal with the gouger/imposter, move the teams to separate dressing rooms on opposite sides of the pitch and get on with the championship.
As a Galway fan I just want this to be over now. He's already had his trial by social media which is way worse than any punishment. Would far rather be talking about Rain's equalizer or McDaid's equalizer, two of the best moments in recent GAA history. Politicians getting involved on the back of this would sicken your hole
Ya I've said it before, if referees pinged every foul in hurling it would be a free every 30 seconds.
The munster final was a great spectacle because the ref did not enforce the rules. That can't continue or there will be anarchy. For all the bad press football gets I think hurling has more serious issues.
Hurling is fast going down the football route as a possession game, hence so many throw balls and overcarrying. Some effort was made in the League to clamp down but come championship it was mainly forgotten, or ignored. The Munster Final typified this where the ref ignored way too much fouling.
Some of the most iconic moments in the history of the GAA have involved shoulder hits. It's symbolises the physicality of the games. Ya there is a chance of people getting injured but that is half the beauty of it.
Get rid of it and you are getting rid of something that goes to the very core of the games.
Both codes are having enough problems.
Throwing the ball and steps in hurling combined with a lighter ball and larger bas making scores from over halfway common place reducing the spectacle and in football a possession game based on constant handpassing doing the same.
Remove the shoulder and we might as well fold the tent.
shoulders are allowed in soccer but you never ever ever see this type of 'tackle'.
some other notables - Lar Corbett vs Waterford, Richie Hogan vs Tipp, John Small last year.
I would have tried to kick the gouger square in the balls.
Yes, the shoulder charge should be banned. It is extremely difficult to execute a bang on shoulder to shoulder charge, most miss. It’s basically used as an excuse to intentionally injure players. I have seen too many broken collar bones and head injuries over the years. If it was banned the refs job would be much simpler.
He was there as a member off the public and entered the playing field so he will be looking at a ban from all GAA activities including possibility attending games for at least a year.
Hard to imagine Galway having a team for the semi-final if the "contributing to a melee" is the standard as applied to the two players red carded. Unless the GAA fudges and claims this meant it was already dealt with by the referee.
Even an attempt to be funny doesn't work with this incident.
in both hurling and football frontal barges or hits into the jaw and side of the head dressed up as attempted shoulders is something that needs to be seriously addressed. Very dangerous stuff
Might seem a bit extreme but I think government should take action.
By not imposing serious consequences for incidents like these the GAA are in effect condoning it, they are basically saying to thousands of kids across the country its alright to get into fights and try cause permanent damage to others.
Why should my taxes be given as funding to a body that condones this sort of behavior, hit the GAA with funding fines and you'll see they find a way to fix the issues pretty quickly.
one match (in the following year's league)
his gauge was in the All-Ireland final
Sorry but this is rubbish. Comer was walking off minding his own business when he was shoulder charged into the back by an Armagh player. Comer confronted him and was soon surrounded by 5 Armagh players, then the Galway lads piled in to separate them. Kelly gouged Comer then it kicked off properly with punches flying all sides.
100% on Armagh. I was sat above it looking down and saw it from the first second.
If I looked at the video again I could name 10-20 players who contributed to that melee, i.e. card offences in category 3 which merit one match suspensions. Apologies if I'm misunderstanding you, but you seem to be espousing a position that's been institutionalised over the years to tolerate this kind of nonsense and hence you're preconditioned to not want to punish anyone in case you miss one of the perpetrators.
You still havent named who should get suspensions
How long of a ban did McMahon get in 2015?
Look up the rules. Lads contributing to the melee should get a red card.
Clearly they must feel differently in Down.
Why would anybody want the Armagh player to get a lesser ban for God sake
I think this is different from the Fahy incident because Armagh, and presumably Galway also, should be expecting multiple players to get cited after yesterday's incident. Just to be clear this isn't a defence of what Fahy did.
My suggestion that Armagh preempt any action from Croke Park by punishing Kelly themselves was based purely around the (very cynical as I've already said) idea that if the board and McGeeney take some sort of action to publicly show that they are taking what happened seriously then it gives them a better footing when it comes to appealing any other suspensions that might come out of yesterdays match.
At the moment I expect Kelly to get some form of action taken against him and that the GAA will try to hit him with the harshest punishment they can. The images are conclusive provided they get the paperwork right and given the sheer amount of attention it's garnered I'd imagine the GAA will be extra diligent about making charges stick. Best chance he has of potentially getting away with a lighter punishment is for Armagh to put something on the table first.
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That's where it all starts alright. Verbals are part and parcel of many games but when unnecessary contact is made between players in order for one to goad the other, that needs a red card. Either when the ball is out of play or initiating 'off the ball' carry on when in play. Managers wouldn't be long in stamping it out then.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Obviously gouging someones eye is an awful act, but the gaa had a case on donaghy himself previously and they fudged it. Does that mean there is a precedent as regards punishment? This is the end result of punishments not being harsh enough - repeat cases.
Another issue for me is the lead up to it. It is only fair to point out that Comer himself instigated a lot of the melee with his antagonistic atittude. These things have no place in the game and again, the lack of meaningful punishment is a root cause here.
He's out injured. So wtf was he even doing there other than being an absolute cnut.
He'll be a hero in Armagh too btw.
The frequency of these brawls is definitely decreasing in recent years but not stamped out yet. Twenty years ago, players leaving the pitch in an ambulance after club match brawls was not uncommon and I saw it happening several times. Some club matches used to have large attendances just because a brawl was guaranteed. It is always always the teams with little talent that start these brawls.
That perennial victim mentality is a fairly common ocurrance. I remember some drunk Nordie in an Irish bar in the US who was roaring and shouting about "bastards in the South"..........someone who knew him said that the fucker had moved to the US when he was about 16 when his father was transferred over as a manager with his company and I'd say he wouldn't have been 5 years old when the GFA was agreed. All he was doing was itching for a row and making himself out to be some sort of IRA hardman. To hear him, you'd think he'd been on hunger strike and been fighting trench warfare with the British army for years.
He was the Nordie equivalent of a LOI fan who shows his sincere Irish patriotism by wearing a Celtic jersey with his grey tracksuit bottoms while running around outside a city-centre pub throwing chairs at lads wearing some other LOI club jerseys. Tiocfaidh ar la!
Am I correct he wasn't playing or a sub, should be banned for life imho either way
Lads adrenaline charged to the max. All on the line after a year of training and working for every inch.
Happens in afl, nrl, nfl , nhl etc all the time but it's only the Irish who turn it into a cry fest.
The eye goucher is a scumbag and should face a lengthy ban. A year minimum.
As for the rest of the " incident "?
Move on. Dry the eyes