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To Mask or not to two - Mask Megathread cont.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    As oppose to you not beating your drum, eh? Give over.

    Once again with your "absolutely NOTHING" when in fact the cause of the near 40 absenteeism's over the few days remains unknown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    A good portion were due to trainees being incorrectly rostered for a start...



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Even if every absenteeism was due to Covid that still has nothing to do with masks.

    Remember, we had over 20K cases a day when there was a mask mandate in place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    And yet you alluded to them being because of a lack of masks……



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    A good portion = 17 but that is not the majority in this case as 20 were absent from work for unknown reasons.

    Which is a far cry from Dublin Airport's issues only being "a result of getting rid of all their staff during Covid and piss-poor planning and organisation at a time of peak demand".

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,991 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Go have a read of some of the articles talking about the redundancies last year, then come back to us.

    Again, the resultant lack of staff and poor organisation has nothing to do with whether people wore masks or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    So you are still linking what happened last weekend with the DAA removing the mask mandate.

    Unless you know that the staff that didn't report for work were 1, out sick with covid 2, they picked up covid while at work, then all you are doing is speculating or being deliberately obtuse about the situation.

    I'm sure if removing the mask mandate or there was concern about Covid, Jerry Brennan (siptu rep) would have made it known during the week. He did raise concerns about staff overworked and doing extra shifts. But no mention of masks or covid.

    Now of course if you have some evidence that it was down to the lifting of the mask mandate or that the staff did in fact pick up covid in their work setting, Please feel free to share it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,751 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    There was a big Liverpool match on the Saturday. That was the cause of the absenteeism.

    Covid is over pal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,238 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,991 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Yup, and no doubt won't acknowledge that or that it's completely unrelated either!

    Here's some reading for you Seanergy:

    The voluntary redundancy scheme introduced by the airport operator during the first year of the Covid crisis saw about 800 people leave the business by the end of 2020.

    In other words, they tried to save money and used it to lay off staff on better/legacy terms that they now aren't offering (per the quote at the bottom of the above article) thus struggling to backfill those roles.

    That's the issue. Nothing at all to do with masks 🙄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,238 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    You'd need a mask to reduce the stench of incompetence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,991 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Ciara Kelly with a very good article this evening in the Indo, but the most relevant part in it is this...


    Human connection is part of what makes life worth living and choosing to eschew that and instead live in fear — avoiding each other; covering our faces, our main means of expressing ourselves and interacting — would fundamentally change our society, and not for the better. Disconnection and loneliness are terrible things.


    Making fear of dying the focus of living is a waste of your life. That we’re all going to die, some of us sooner than others, is an unavoidable certainty. So if death is a given and only the hour is in question, then how we live is surely the important thing.


    She's absolutely spot on! Couldn't agree with the above more!


    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/im-glad-the-time-of-wearing-masks-has-passed-making-fear-of-dying-the-focus-of-living-is-a-waste-of-your-life-41730265.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    One of 3 reasons given at the Orieachtas hearing was staff absences due to COVID-19.

    So you can hold off your "nothing to do with masks" malarky.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    LOL nice dump.

    How does wearing a mask whilst in a healthcare setting like a pharmacy make "life not worth living"?

    How would that "fundamentally change our society"??

    Ciara Kelly has disconnected from protecting the vulnerable, they truly know how "terrible" loneliness is as they wear there mask amongst Jock Shock arcticle writting desperate ateention seekers.

    She is so profound, not. We only die once, we live everyday. Agreeing with this nonesense highlights how low are thought processing have become.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Heard that Irema have lost the HSE mask contract and that we are returning to purchasing FFP2 from overseas.

    Anyone heard anything on this?

    Is that the end of the HSE surgical mask manufacturing also?

    What about the surfical mask line they bought and had installed at Ireama?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Please show us how those absences were DIRECTLY caused by the non wearing of masks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,991 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Ahh you're back!!

    The difference between the link I posted above and your random Twitter/YouTube videos is I actually offered an opinion on what I quoted - namely that she is exactly right and sums it up perfectly in the piece I linked to.

    I think you may need to read the quote/article again though - if you can't understand how hiding the primary means of expressing ourselves visually and subconsciously might be damaging then I don't know what to tell you really. Maybe do some research on the problems being caused to social interaction by our (over) dependence on phone screens - much the same idea. Better yet, go into any social setting and observe how many are interacting with their phones rather than each other. That should give you an indication.

    I dare say Ciara Kelly (who I don't always agree with either) has a far better view on the vulnerable, mental health, and just the mood of people through her medical background and as a presenter on NT Breakfast (which relies heavily on listener input/texts) than your good self who is still pushing a cause that almost everyone else (including the vaunted experts who previously advocated for it) has moved on from.

    You're are right in one thing you said though.. we live every day and that's precisely her point. It's the QUALITY of, and interactions we have on, those days that matters, not morbidly obsessing about what ills MIGHT befall us and living in fear of that or death itself. Aside from the waste of TIME (the one thing we can't get back) that it represents, it's just not healthy to live in that constant state of anxiety and wariness of those around you.

    Anyway, come back soon. It's important that some much needed perspective continues to be applied to your postings, especially as some in the public arena are starting with the scaremongering again as well. With everything else this country is facing at the moment, more Covid panicking is the last thing we need.

    Oh one last thing, it's "shock jock"!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,991 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    There's no point. He/she can't! You're just expected to take it at face value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,991 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    You don't think maybe that the DAA might have used "covid" as a convenient excuse for their own failings? To be fair to them, it was, and is, used to try and explain away a lot of inadequacies and poor decisions/practises in both the public and private sector since 2020.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Your condescneding knows no bounds.

    Q was

    How does wearing a mask whilst in a healthcare setting like a pharmacy make "life not worth living"?

    Try answering that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Please show us how those absences have "nothing to do with masks" @_Kaiser_

    There's no point. He/she can't. In fact he/she is so far down the rabbit hole of denial that they are suggesting "COVID" was used as a "convenient excuse" and was not a real factor.. But yeah let's pile on others.

    If you can't see the correlation between masks or lack of masks and Covid cases at this point there is no helping you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Graphic shared by the Department of Health today. Mask COMMS still very poor.

    Is it sugesting that the exposed area, the lower neck got virus on it from somebody else whilst the person was wearing the mask? If so shouldn't the mask also have virus on the front of it? Shouldn't there be virus all over the mask wearer's face too?

    Looks fomite/droplet heavy to me.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    INMO absolutely spot on! Couldn't agree more!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    What I get from that is that two and a half years after “flatten the curve” the HSE STILL haven’t done ANYTHING to make sure the health service can cope. But, yeah, it’s all about masks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,648 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    The demands begin! We are never going to get away from this Shyte. I don’t mean the virus per se but people and organisations constantly threatening our freedoms and choice on how we live our lives everytime there is some rise. If they get their way with mask mandates you can be sure demands will focus on other restrictions next. Overcrowding? 50% of them were in hospital anyway!

    This BA.4 won’t be a 1600 in hospital event like it was a couple of months ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,238 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    I hope you're wearing those N95 ones at least. I want you to keep me safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,238 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bring masks back in and we will have them forever. Covid is never going away despite these talking heads and celeb doctors wishing Covid away with masks.

    She tried this same nonsense months ago. Rightly, she was ignored and the wave subsided naturally. No doubt masks will be credited with being the saving Grace if they’re brought back in.

    Probably one of those geniuses who thinks wearing a mask to or from the jax in the boozer is the difference to catching a mild cold, sorry Covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    Conveniently forgetting countries with the strictest face mask laws still had record cases only a couple of months ago 🙄



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  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Also have to laugh at today’s purveyor of doom in the media (Prof Loscher) saying how she proudly was one of only 4 people on the plane wearing a mask.

    Then how it goes on further down to say how she now has Covid. I shouldn’t laugh but come on..



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